Toastygawa
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Post by Toastygawa on Aug 8, 2005 3:54:44 GMT -5
Something that I wish to share: I purchased a bottle of Pomegranite juice drink recently simply because of the shape of the bottle. The bottle is shaped very much like a gourd (though both 'hemispheres' of the gourd are the same size), and I thought that with a bit of paint, it could make a passable japanese canteen.  I don't know the name of this little travel implement, and I'm not certain if the coats of paint (olive and mustard colors) that I've put on this bottle can pull off the drinking gourd effect. I may go over it with some brown model paint to try and get the streak look a bit better. The product is 'POM Wonderful' and their website can be found with a google search. What do you say, with a length of rope strung around it, will it look ok when hanging from an obi? * moderator edit to modify title |
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Post by Date Saburou Yukiie on Aug 8, 2005 5:36:31 GMT -5
A japanese military canteen is a "suito" and is made from bamboo or a gourd. This cerainly looks like a gourd - or it would with some paint! Nice find! I can see one hanging from an uwaobi or with armor!
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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on Aug 8, 2005 8:08:49 GMT -5
Very cool! Here is a scrawny suitou ...   |
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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on Aug 8, 2005 8:11:52 GMT -5
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AJBryant
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Post by AJBryant on Aug 8, 2005 8:50:56 GMT -5
Toasty, that suito is sweet (conveniently, in Japanese, pronounced "suitto")1
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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on Aug 8, 2005 9:06:07 GMT -5
Toasty, that suito is sweet (conveniently, in Japanese, pronounced "suitto") Now its my turn ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>...ouch...<<<<<<<<<<<<<  |
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Saionji Shonagon
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Aug 8, 2005 13:51:19 GMT -5
If you want real gourds, try www.caning.com/BTW, POM is really good cut with a little club soda. M. |
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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on Aug 8, 2005 14:30:10 GMT -5
Hmmm... Furafura-hime has some knowledge of gourds...
I have some gourds in my basement that I bought last winter. How do I hollow them out?
Do I drill a small hole in the top and use wire to scrap out the gourd?
Do I drill a large hole in the bottom, clean the gourd, then glue the plug back into the hole?
Is there another method?
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Saionji Shonagon
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Aug 8, 2005 15:19:20 GMT -5
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Post by Masahide on Aug 8, 2005 16:15:00 GMT -5
Do I drill a small hole in the top and use wire to scrap out the gourd? Do I drill a large hole in the bottom, clean the gourd, then glue the plug back into the hole? Is there another method? The website that Makiwara posted (http://www.caning.com) has a bunch of tools for cleaning out gourds. There are long handled scrapers, as well as an attachment for a drill (but that may be too large for "drinking gourd" style openings. |
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Post by Please Delete on Aug 8, 2005 18:50:54 GMT -5
FYI, I have a bunch of gourds that just may be sweeto for suito  We'll harvest them and see what we can do about drying them out properly, and if we have any left  we'll let you all know! -Ii |
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Post by Also Toastygawa on Aug 14, 2005 1:01:46 GMT -5
I bring knowledge from the gourd-fanatics at the Indiana State Fair!
They say that gourds are easiest to hollow shortly after harvest (when the innards are still mush), but can be done (granted some tenacity) when dry without cutting them open. Drill the end-hole, and fill said gourd with gravel (or a similar heavy abrasive) and water. Shake thoroughly, letting the unwanted insides get soft in the water and then broken or scrubbed away. Then empty and let dry. Repeat the process as often as is necessary (which could take a week or two, depending on your vigor when shaking).
Another method which should speed up the process would include taking a fresh length of weed-whacker line (the plastic stuff on the spool that cuts the weeds) and fitting it into a hand drill, inserting it through the end-hole and letting it beat the ever-loving snot out of the gourd's insides. Lots depends on the shape and size of said gourd.
Test the gourd by filling it with water and drinking from it to see if the bitter taste is gone.
They say that untreated gourds (once hollowed) can be used to drink from, and will be watertight for short campaigns (like a weekend excursion). But one must let them dry out between events. With treatment (something I will have to look up), a gourd can hold water indefinitely.
Yes... I picked up gourd seeds...
But never fear! I will ask for one of you to assist me in seppuku before I hang up my armor, put down my swords and focus on the art of the gourd!
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Post by mikaiyawa on Aug 14, 2005 13:03:49 GMT -5
once cleaned to you think they could be sealed with a polyurethane sealer? Like the ones for wooden bowls and cup? Not period or anything, but might help keep flavor contamination down. Then you could put more than water in one.
My Aunt has a good crop of large gourds, and we were debating making bowls from them, but were presuming they would be decorative rather than functional. (shrugs) will have to wait and see I guess.
Mieka
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Post by Yoshimitsu on Feb 12, 2007 23:54:27 GMT -5
Kombanwa,
Prompted to reply by a similar thread...
I've gone through several campaign seasons using gourd suito. After as thorough a cleaning as I can give them, I line the gourd with bee's wax. I have not documented the use of bee's wax in period so if you go this route, you do so at your own risk. ;-)
If anyone has documentation for the use of bee's wax, I would love to hear from you. Otherwise, I really should look into it...
Domo,
Yoshi
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Post by Kitabatake Genjiro Katsunari on Feb 14, 2007 20:41:47 GMT -5
Yoshi-dono would the wax not have a problem of melting or disolving in hot weather?
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We'll harvest them and see what we can do about drying them out properly, and if we have any left 
we'll let you all know!
