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Post by Yoshimitsu on Feb 19, 2007 19:21:45 GMT -5
I have carelessly left the suito in the sun both filled and empty in several climates (Pennsic, Lilies, and Estrella wars) with no ill effects.
When empty, the wax has softened to the touch some, but it did not come loose, run, or thin. With air temperature water/wine/etc. in the gourd, the temperature never has been high enough to soften and/or damage the lining. That being said, I do not intentionally leave it sitting in the sun.
Of course, tea temperature water would likely do a fair amount of damage, and impart flavor to the tea. Best to use bamboo for such things...
Yoshi
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Feb 19, 2007 19:33:01 GMT -5
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Post by Yamauchi Sanosuke on Feb 19, 2007 23:33:17 GMT -5
Please forgive my intrusion into your discussion.
Would any of you have information on making a bamboo Suito/tea flask?
Domo Arigato Gozaimashita
Toyama Sanosuke
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Post by solveig on Feb 20, 2007 18:31:02 GMT -5
Noble Cousins!
Greetings from Solveig! I suspect that what you are looking for is actually called a "suibyou" or "suibyau". (Lit. Water bottle.) They were used for drinking and washing purposes. One drawing which I have shows the thing fastened to the lower back shoulder of a traveler. There are other interesting containers out there such as those made from lengths of bamboo.
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Post by solveig on Feb 21, 2007 22:51:54 GMT -5
Noble Cousin! Greetings from Solveig! Where are you getting the idea that flasks or bottles were used for tea especially in premodern Japan? The problem with letting tea sit around once it gets wet is that it quickly oxidizes. To complicate things further, there are several methods for preparing tea some of which were in use in Japan prior to 1600. Regardless, I sincerely doubt that flasks were used to carry around liquid tea. Matcha is powdered green tea and is prepared immediately before consumption as is sencha which is made using tea leaves. Prior to matcha, there was dancha which were hard bricks of tea leaves, stems, salt, &c. which were boiled immediately prior to consumption.
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Post by Yoshimitsu on Feb 23, 2007 17:11:17 GMT -5
Noble Cousin! Greetings from Solveig! Where are you getting the idea that flasks or bottles were used for tea especially in premodern Japan? I think the idea came, most unintentionally, from me. I had suggested earlier wax and warm/hot liquids (like tea temperature water) may not be a good idea. I then wrote that it might impart a bad taste to "the tea." I can easily see readers could look at that and think "thermos." So, a good argument for the appropriate use of emoticons, neh? This is what I get for violating my self-imposed pre-dusting, de-grassing, post-Estrella War internet hiatus.
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