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Post by arashi on May 13, 2010 22:15:14 GMT -5
I'm looking for a hyotan (bottle gourd) to carry around with me when Im in garb so I can have something to drink without having something as conspicuous as a bottle of gatorade or mountain dew.
Anyone know where I could find one suitable for actual use, that holds 20+ ounces of liquid?
Thanks Arashi
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on May 13, 2010 22:26:09 GMT -5
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Post by arashi on May 13, 2010 23:38:12 GMT -5
I'll keep them in mind. Happen to know of anyplace that makes/sell pre-made ones?
I dont really have the tools or time to make my own currently.
Thanks Arashi
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Post by worldantiques on May 14, 2010 5:48:43 GMT -5
I'm looking for a hyotan (bottle gourd) to carry around with me when Im in garb so I can have something to drink without having something as conspicuous as a bottle of gatorade or mountain dew. Anyone know where I could find one suitable for actual use, that holds 20+ ounces of liquid? Thanks Arashi Check here, these guys used to carry them>> www.fuguvillage.org/fugunew/shop.htm if not, I do see them for sale from time to time.
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Post by arashi on May 14, 2010 14:39:11 GMT -5
They have a few pictures of them on their website, but don't seem to be selling them currently. I'm checking around for various places online, found a few on etsy, and a bunch of antique ones on ebay. Not having any luck finding retailers or anything though.
If anyone knows of a source for a finished drinking gourds, feel free to post here.
Thanks Arashi
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Post by kikuchiyo on Jun 1, 2010 16:46:37 GMT -5
One piece of "belt kit" I have seen, is a small wooden canteen. It's not a gourd, but a miniature barrel type, similar to US Civil War canteens but smaller. Were these common?
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Post by arashi on Jun 3, 2010 18:42:35 GMT -5
The 2 types of traveling drinking containers I have see are ones made of gourds, or ones made of a section of larger diameter bamboo. I don't recall having seen any that looked like barrels, but I may have just missed them.
Arashi
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Post by kikuchiyo on Jun 4, 2010 12:24:08 GMT -5
It was in a movie. YMMV. I have seen the bamboo canteens. There may be a shop in SF where they sell these.
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Jun 4, 2010 13:47:26 GMT -5
I have seen the bamboo canteens. There may be a shop in SF where they sell these. I live in the Bay area and just did a Japantown run over the holiday weekend. I don't remember seeing anything of the sort, but should I run across them in the future, I'll post something to that effect. I believe Date Rokuro made one. I should think it would be a matter of finding bamboo with a large enough diameter and some work with a saw and a drill if one is feeling ambitious. (I'll be working on drum stands this weekend myself....)
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Post by kikuchiyo on Jun 4, 2010 15:41:59 GMT -5
The one that I saw in SS may have been made from a cross-section of bamboo, in the shape of what we call in the middle ages a costrel.
BTW, I think that hyotan means "gourd" if I'm not mistaken.
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Post by arashi on Jun 4, 2010 17:19:19 GMT -5
Hyotan does indeed mean gourd, usually referring to the "bottle gourd" which has been used as a canteen in many cultures for centuries. Finding a bottle gourd canteen in modern times seems to be rather difficult...the only ones I seem to run across are all antiques. Im about to the point where I am just going to buy one of those aluminum sport bottles and some sculpting clay or something and make an immitation one. Attached is a picture of a good example of a hyotan canteen Arashi Attachments:
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Post by kikuchiyo on Jun 4, 2010 17:36:11 GMT -5
You may be able to find someone who grows them or get the seeds yourself. In Japanese historical dramas (taiga dorama) I see the bamboo canteen more often. Is that because they were more common or that NHK had trouble finding the gourds too?
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Jun 4, 2010 17:36:38 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2010 21:17:11 GMT -5
I found my gourds at a shop here in Pittsburgh that specializes in dried flowers. That's just another thing for you to search for in your area. I haven't ordered from any of them, but a number of online sources offer dried bottle gourds of various sizes for reasonable amounts of money. I coated the interior of my gourds with wax, but I'm told it's not really necessary. Just fill them with water, let them sit, and then empty, several times until the water no longer has a flavor when exiting.
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Post by solveig on Jun 4, 2010 23:57:51 GMT -5
Noble Cousin! Greetings from Solveig! You may be able to find someone who grows them or get the seeds yourself. In Japanese historical dramas (taiga dorama) I see the bamboo canteen more often. Is that because they were more common or that NHK had trouble finding the gourds too? If you are really talking about the NHK Taiga Dorama, those are high-budget affairs and they tend toward accuracy. I am a bit puzzled though by your description. The bamboo storage bottles which come to my mind are elongated cylinders.
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