Lady Kimiko
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Post by Lady Kimiko on Oct 24, 2011 23:31:18 GMT -5
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AJBryant
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Post by AJBryant on Oct 25, 2011 0:40:19 GMT -5
It's a kanmuri, worn by someone in the uniform of the palace guard.
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Saionji Shonagon
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Oct 25, 2011 0:54:55 GMT -5
It's a kanmuri, worn by someone in the uniform of the palace guard. Fierce! He can guard my veranda any time. ;D
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Lady Kimiko
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Post by Lady Kimiko on Oct 31, 2011 9:21:13 GMT -5
Thanks! I'll go with Makiwara here...he can guard my anything anytime.
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Post by Rokurou on Oct 31, 2011 10:38:28 GMT -5
My question is, what and how are the brushy, hairy things that are attached to the side, constructed. Looks like horse hair, but that is as far as my thinking goes, at the moment. Rokurou
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Oct 31, 2011 11:06:49 GMT -5
My question is, what and how are the brushy, hairy things that are attached to the side, constructed. Looks like horse hair, but that is as far as my thinking goes, at the moment. Rokurou They are horsehair.
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Post by Ishida Kentarou Mitsumasa on Oct 31, 2011 14:58:23 GMT -5
Now the exciting question: where do I get one of those when I want to make a bukan sokutai?
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Post by Lady Kimiko on Oct 31, 2011 18:38:25 GMT -5
Now the exciting question: where do I get one of those when I want to make a bukan sokutai? Oh man, if you make one I DEMAND pics! Talk about epic looking!
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Oct 31, 2011 18:44:10 GMT -5
Now the exciting question: where do I get one of those when I want to make a bukan sokutai? Ii-dono may be able to help. I seem to remember seeing him wearing one, but I don't know if it was bought or made.
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Post by nana on Nov 1, 2011 10:37:30 GMT -5
I think he bought his....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2011 10:59:16 GMT -5
There's always something new to learn at "sengokudaimyo.com". If you look closely at www.sengokudaimyo.com/garb/garb.ch02.html , the ear fringes are called "oikake", and they appear to be a military item. Here's another picture of them - The Bukan Sokutai sugata for military officials includes them, but the Bunkan Sokutai sugata for civil officials does not. The Kachie sugata for Imperial guards includes them, but most others do not. I'm not sure what military purpose they serve, but it could be an "Eyes Front!" kind of thing, or maybe they just keep the flies away. Apprently, Toraba had one with oikake at one time, but it has been sold. www.toraba.com/images/products/sono801-0240_2.jpgwww.toraba.com/images/products/sono801-0240_4.jpg
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Post by Please Delete on Nov 1, 2011 11:53:22 GMT -5
I bought the kanmuri (two of them, actually, though only one with the "tails" and both are post-Heian style, though one is more similar to Heian than the other). I've contemplated making them, but the question is: how? The only way I can really figure to do it is to go ahead and make a wooden form ('kata'), sew the fabric together around it, and then lacquer it down. The issue, of course, is getting everything to look right... it should appear to be little more than stiff silk--you don't want it to be too smooth and glossy. That also means getting the correct type of silk. Also of potential interest: in Korea, many of the black lacquered caps appear to be made of woven horsehair, but I don't know if that technique was employed in Japan, and the early caps coming from China definitely appear to be fabric, based on the way they drape. Another thought was to avoid silk and go with something like a buckram, given that it would have some nice body, good definition, and open weave. If you *really* wanted to make it spiff, then you would need to weave in some of the extra touches. See this: www.kariginu.jp/kikata/2-2.htmAs for the "blinders" on either side, those appear to be a "D" loop of cord, with bundles of horsehair wrapped around--I'm not sure exactly how this is made, but it does appear to be attached to the cords that hang down (usually looped around the top of the kanmuri). I've not yet tried to make these. Not sure if that helps at all... -Ii
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Post by Ishida Kentarou Mitsumasa on Nov 1, 2011 12:07:02 GMT -5
I was specifically wondering where you had purchased said kanmuri, although I appreciate knowing the other information too
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Post by Please Delete on Nov 1, 2011 15:53:43 GMT -5
Ah... one was an E-Bay acquisition, and the other was part of an ikan wedding set from Yamatoku ( yamatoku.jp). -Ii
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2011 17:08:31 GMT -5
I made this one by cutting shapes from heavy interfacing, then covering the whole thing in black gaffer's tape. It was basically a stage prop and very few people saw it this close up, so the fact that it's butt ugly didn't matter too much. Here it is worn by Brandubh O'Donghaile at Pennsic. I used wire-edge ribbon for the tails, which worked out pretty well. I wouldn't recommend anything else about my method.
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