Saionji Shonagon
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Jun 9, 2005 8:36:00 GMT -5
It looked pretty good to me - did you see the patchwork Uesugi Kenshin kosode I posted on sca-jml, the other day? A very close imitation of it is worn by Oda Nobunaga in the film. Whoa, I just found this screen shot - check out the "laundry" hanging behind Nobunaga. Toyotomi Hideyoshi's dobuku is back there! (We discussed this one in the thread on "Placement of Kamon on Kosode") This is why I'M dithering over what sort of boy clothes to do! Printing or stenciling your own would be extremely doable. For that matter, do you remember the two retainers in really broad stripes (one was pinkish red and white, the other was green and white). That would be really easy to do by folding your fabric and dyeing the folded edges only. Go to my website at www.geocities.com/wodeford/KosodeMadeSimple.htm and hit the links at the bottom of the article to see some extant garments from the 16th century. Also,, go take a spin through Effingham's site as he's got a lot of good information on men's clothing from that period: www.sengokudaimyo.comM.
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Saionji Shonagon
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Jun 9, 2005 14:07:38 GMT -5
(Sniff. Rustle.) Effete. Powerless. Heh. His Highness has never seen the namban gasp and tremble at the merest glimpse of this person's shadow smile peeping from behind the edge of this person's fan. And this person is but a weak and feeble woman. (Okay, black teeth really weirds people out, which is part of the fun of doing it!)
That would be a Yup.
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Post by Takeda Sanjuichiro on Jun 9, 2005 22:10:20 GMT -5
...Effete. Powerless. Heh... Agreed...there was a reason why the Minamoto earned the nickname "claws and teeth of the fujiwara" ***cue music*** Frea-king the nanban... Frea-king the nanban, come go a-freaking the nanban with me....
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Saionji Shonagon
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Jun 10, 2005 0:44:23 GMT -5
Takeda-dono, it's been a really long day - I'm hearing that with a very cheesy Aussie accent. Sung out of tune, no less.
"Freaking" people is rude. I prefer to think of it as broadening their horizons. Though I have to say, there is something very satisfying about making three laurels shriek, "Holy s--t, Jehanne, is that you!" at the top of their lungs in unison.
BTW, I've just ordered some new products to do makeup tests with - if the results are decent, I will make a full report.
M.
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Post by Nagamochi on Jun 10, 2005 0:59:15 GMT -5
BTW, I've just ordered some new products to do makeup tests with - if the results are decent, I will make a full report. M. Speaking of, Goldy-butt, I mean, Makiwara-dono, what kind of make-up would you suggest for blackening one's teeth? The only thing I could think of would be stage makeup specifically for such, which I could get here in town, just wondering if there might be something better. Also, is the use of white grease paint before the white powder goes on too much, or would just powdering my face do? Patiently waiting for his hems to be stepped on, Nagamochi
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Saionji Shonagon
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Jun 10, 2005 1:36:33 GMT -5
Call me that again and I'll poke you in the eye with something hard, sharp and medieval. If your natural skin tones are dark (which I seem to recall you mentioning), powder alone is probably not going to be enough. Having had to use a LOT of powder when that's all I had, I'm taking the next step: white foundation, then powder over the top to set it. (Be sure to do your neck too.) The stuff I just ordered was through a theatrical supplier. stageandtheatermakeup.com/Mehron's Celebre foundation comes in white and I ordered their ultrafine setting powder stageandtheatermakeup.com/mhfoundation.htmstageandtheatermakeup.com/mhssp.htmPaint-on tooth-black can be messy until you get used to putting it on, but gives a better effect than the wax kind. stageandtheatermakeup.com/hbc.htm#bntooth comes off with toothpaste. If there's someplace in your area where the goth crowd buys their stuff, you may be able to find white powder and foundation there. I got my first compact of white powder at Hot Topic. Dark eyeliner and mascara, if you need it, and a matte red lipcolor you can get pretty much anywhere. And the skin care aisle of your local drug store should have pre-treated wipes (e.g., Olay) for when it's time to get it all off. (I can't believe I just sent this info to a guy!) M.
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Post by Nagamochi on Jun 10, 2005 1:45:21 GMT -5
(I can't believe I just sent this info to a guy!) M. Welcome to my daily life! If it doesn't screw with my head, I know something is wrong...
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Post by AJBryant on Jun 10, 2005 6:57:07 GMT -5
Very. The later Kurosawa films (and more recent samurai dramas) tend to be much more accurate in terms of costume than older ones, as more prodcos make costumes specifically for the project rather than relying on whatever-is-available studio rentals. It's also expanded the variety of available rentals for other projects.
The one area where things are consistently off in modern film is armour -- they "change out" the really obvious stuff like sode and so on (many studio armours have "exchange pieces" -- two or three different sets of sode or kabuto with lacing patterns matching the body, allowing the armours to be used to cover a wider number of years). If you know armour well, though, it's like seeing a Civil War (or even WWI or WWII!) uniform in a film on the Revolution, and annoying as hell. I just saw "Gojoe" the other day, and interesting as it was I kept gnashing my teeth at the inappropriate armours.
The first trick is to watch a lot of the recent films to get a feeling for the patterns. The second trick is to look for photos of extant pieces for the same reason. The third trick is to look for contemporary illustrations to see what artists were indicating as common.
Effingham
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Post by Please Delete on Jun 10, 2005 7:39:40 GMT -5
just saw "Gojoe" the other day, and interesting as it was I kept gnashing my teeth at the inappropriate armours. You know, if that is all you were gnashing your teeth about in that movie.... There seems to me a point where movies move far enough out into the hinterlands of logic and reason that it becomes fantasy and I can deal with it. -Ii
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Post by Raymond Arnold on Jun 27, 2005 14:03:12 GMT -5
here is a website that I really like www.yusoku.com they are hein period garb and that is machine woven polyester I am also sorry that they are in japanese only and for converting measurments and all is www.convertit.com
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Post by Nagamochi on Jun 28, 2005 0:36:59 GMT -5
here is a website that I really like www.yusoku.com they are hein period garb and that is machine woven polyester I am also sorry that they are in japanese only and for converting measurments and all is www.convertit.comDear sweet Kannon, the samurai on the site's front page has subjected himself to tengu geta in full armor. I don't know if I should call that dedication, or sheer insanity.
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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on Jun 28, 2005 1:21:39 GMT -5
here is a website that I really like www.yusoku.com they are hein period garb and that is machine woven polyester I am also sorry that they are in japanese only and for converting measurments and all is www.convertit.com A trick for scanning sites in Japanese when you cannot read the language (and therefore cannot intelligently follow the links) is to use Google to pull out the images. As in the following link: images.google.com/images?biw=&q=yusoku.com
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Post by Nagamochi on Jun 29, 2005 0:32:07 GMT -5
Ah, yet another nifty computer trick taught to this technological namban. Domo!
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Post by Kitadatedenka on Jun 29, 2005 9:19:42 GMT -5
Or use babelfish to translate...
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Post by Nagamochi on Jun 30, 2005 0:45:38 GMT -5
Babelfish? Isn't that something I should marinate with lemon and throw on the grill?
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