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Post by Nagamochi on Jun 20, 2005 0:06:07 GMT -5
Did someone say fabric donations!? Let me look through my scraps bag... Wait, let me GIVE you my scraps bag, then your kesa will be set! lol
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Post by Volk'abe on Jun 20, 2005 1:24:05 GMT -5
Did someone say fabric donations!? Let me look through my scraps bag... Wait, let me GIVE you my scraps bag, then your kesa will be set! lol No. hehe. I'm thinking of getting scraps from people I tell stories to. Sort of like the way they say the monks do and sort of like the "normal" bards getting food or drink. Of course I'm still bouncing it around... Found authentice underwear on JBox.com. I'd like to just run with a kosode and hakama but I think that just winds up being underwear for the period I'm thinking of...
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Jun 20, 2005 1:57:25 GMT -5
The only difficulty I forsee is that being namban (barbarians), it won't occur to most of your hosts that fabric donations are appropriate. You're going to have to make it known. (Perhaps a ringer in the audience?) Once it becomes an established part of your reputation, however, you may be inundated with such gifts.
It's a cool idea though.
M.
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Post by Please Delete on Jun 20, 2005 5:24:52 GMT -5
The other part about getting donations for the kesa that will make it more difficult will be the types of donations you get. A Japanese monk could generally be guaranteed to get scraps of silks and linens. You wouldn't have wool or cotton (NB: this last one has been debated but I still don't see enough evidence that it was widespread in Japan), let alone polyester. There is also the weight of the items.
I think it would be cool to do, but realize you may have to be a begger AND a chooser to come out with something that looks right.
Also, I think you are going to want to overdye the fabric scraps you get. I'm not sure I've seen many truly colorful kesa and koromo--I've seen them use brocade, but usually it seems to be no more than two fabrics per garment. Possibly this is because they were probably getting enough silk for an entire garment--either because it was a garment that had been stained or ripped and was no longer suitable or because the donations given were enough silk to actually make something out of.
Something to look into further. If you are looking for examples, I may be able to dig some out in the stacks of books later tonight.
-Ii
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Post by Volk'abe on Jun 20, 2005 11:26:15 GMT -5
I could use an example of the kesa... I can't seem to determine which clothing item it is in the pictures I've seen so far... Gaijin eyes...
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Post by Nagamochi on Jun 20, 2005 23:59:39 GMT -5
Found authentice underwear on JBox.com. I'd like to just run with a kosode and hakama but I think that just winds up being underwear for the period I'm thinking of... Elecwolf-sweets, you may want to look into fundoshi. For muslin at $2/yard, you could have yourself four pairs for about $6 total. The trick with them is getting used to them, which is like getting used to an atomic wedgie. This may be too much info, but that's a feat this boi has yet to acheive. Have fun! Nagamochi
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Jun 21, 2005 0:28:50 GMT -5
"This has been a broadcast from WTMI. Just when you've heard too much, we give you MORE!" Try Tanki Yoriaku, it's got tabi directions, I'll bet it - why yes, there it is at the top of the menu. www.rhinohide.cx/tousando/yoriaku/Politely averting my eyes, M.
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Post by Nagamochi on Jun 21, 2005 10:17:22 GMT -5
I LOVE that station!
But honestly, the style I'm thinking of is a bit different from what Makiwara-gimi mentions. No strings, no cords to tie, think sumo wrestler's diaper.
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Post by Volk'abe on Jun 21, 2005 17:57:06 GMT -5
rofl. This group is fun. I listen to that station too. Since I'm at work and you mentioned averting eyes I'll look at this when I get home... Mostly I'm worried that with all these layers, the visit to the small house will require three hours and a retinue...
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Jun 21, 2005 18:39:43 GMT -5
You should've been here for April Fool's Day. I can do it without assistance in women's hakama (that tie on the side!!!), kosode, floor length-plus-a-foot hitoe and uchiki with the really BIG sleeves (banging my elbows on the stall walls as I reassemble everything). Your "plumbing" is a lot easier to deal with. So there, nyah. Makiwara
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Post by Volk'abe on Jun 22, 2005 0:08:33 GMT -5
That part of the "plumbing" I'm not worried about. It's the part we have in common that I picture to be difficult. The hakama are pretty much the middle layer. Fundoshi, Hakama, ... Well, now that I look at it... The four layers are the top half. Still researching... Gomen nasai...
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Post by Nagamochi on Jun 22, 2005 0:27:43 GMT -5
*smooth announcers voice* And now on WTMI: It's still a bear to use "our plumbing" through the bottom hem of nagabakama. Especially when three sheets to the wind!
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Post by Nagamochi on Jun 22, 2005 0:29:26 GMT -5
Wait a tick! I thought this was a thread about parasols!?
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Jun 22, 2005 0:30:37 GMT -5
Y'know, this list is predominantly populated by males. Surely one of them can tell you....
M.
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Post by Volk'abe on Jun 22, 2005 10:48:33 GMT -5
Wait a tick! I thought this was a thread about parasols!? It used to be... Then I showed up...
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