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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on Aug 12, 2007 21:24:45 GMT -5
I have seen the yashiki,... Just to be clear ... Saiaiko-hime has a yashiki. I have a tiki hut. The tiki hut is not even close to being in her category.
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Aug 12, 2007 21:37:05 GMT -5
Just to be clear ... Saiaiko-hime has a yashiki. I have a tiki hut. The tiki hut is not even close to being in her category. Fine. I live under a scrap of cloth so a tiki hut seems palatial to me.
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Aug 13, 2007 22:25:59 GMT -5
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Post by AJBryant on Aug 15, 2007 9:27:32 GMT -5
Why did I just have flashbacks to mynah birds and totem poles chanting,
In the tikki tikki tikki tikki tikki room, In the tikki tikki tikki tikki tikki room, All the birds they sing and the flowers bloom In the tikki tikki tikki tikki tikki room,
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Aug 15, 2007 13:45:06 GMT -5
Why did I just have flashbacks to mynah birds and totem poles chanting No totem poles exactly, but you should see the effect when there's a flashlight tucked inside the armor so it shines up inside the kabuto at night. ;D
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Post by Rokurou on Aug 15, 2007 14:36:48 GMT -5
Why did I just have flashbacks to mynah birds and totem poles chanting, In the tikki tikki tikki tikki tikki room, In the tikki tikki tikki tikki tikki room, All the birds they sing and the flowers bloom In the tikki tikki tikki tikki tikki room, Effingham I do believe there's a similar song at The Enchanted Tiki Room, at Disney.
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Post by dianet on Aug 15, 2007 15:38:05 GMT -5
*claps hands over her ears*
NOOOOOOOOOOO.... Not the Tiki Room!!!!
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Post by AJBryant on Aug 17, 2007 11:08:55 GMT -5
It's almost (but not quite) as mind-killing as "Small World."
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Post by Kagami Tomoko on Nov 16, 2013 2:02:13 GMT -5
Giving this thread a little bump as I'm curious how the final product turned out for Otagiri Tatsuzou. My day job is in architecture and have been dabbling with designing a period encampment, off and on, for awhile now. I would love to learn from any past genius moments and mistakes. Plus, I'm very curious to see everyone's creations.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2013 8:27:37 GMT -5
Giving this thread a little bump as I'm curious how the final product turned out for Otagiri Tatsuzou. My day job is in architecture and have been dabbling with designing a period encampment, off and on, for awhile now. I would love to learn from any past genius moments and mistakes. Plus, I'm very curious to see everyone's creations. If I remember correctly (from 6 years ago?) It worked out OK. I don't have any pictures of it. His hut looked OK, and it gave him plenty of room for living and receiving visitors. He did have some problems during a rain storm. The wind blew on his walls so hard that some water wound up on to top his flooring and some things got wet. A lot of tents have the same problem in Pennsic storms. When I was doing research for the new camp gate earlier this year, I found a number of handy reference works. One of my favorites is "Measure and Construction of the Japanese House" by Heino Engel. As an architect, you will appreciate the detailed drawings. For theory and philosophy, I recommend "From Castle to Teahouse" by John B. Kirby, Jr. While everybody loves the sukiya style that became popular in the Momoyama period, it's good to know the roots, IMO. The problem with "period encampments" in our area of study is that actual encampments were minimal. Soldiers on campaign and the like would likely sleep under the open air, surrounded by jinmaku. Those who desired more substantial shelter would likely sleep in a local temple or take over a peasant's household. I'd love to see somebody build a minka farmhouse encampment, but those things are pretty heavy. As a group project, recreating the entire village from "Seven Samurai" would totally win the SCA.
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Nov 16, 2013 10:04:36 GMT -5
It looked beautiful - BUT was time consuming to put up, so not practical for a short event, and it leaked like a sieve in the rain - and that was an especially wet Estrella he brought it to.
(Otagiri-dono, where are you? We miss you!)
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Post by Kagami Tomoko on Nov 16, 2013 21:40:38 GMT -5
If I remember correctly (from 6 years ago?) It worked out OK. I don't have any pictures of it. His hut looked OK, and it gave him plenty of room for living and receiving visitors. He did have some problems during a rain storm. The wind blew on his walls so hard that some water wound up on to top his flooring and some things got wet. A lot of tents have the same problem in Pennsic storms. I have never personally been to Pennsic but I understand the problems of water infiltration. Do you know anyone that has successfully built anything 4" - 8" off the ground? Perhaps using CMU or other structural footings? When I was doing research for the new camp gate earlier this year, I found a number of handy reference works. One of my favorites is "Measure and Construction of the Japanese House" by Heino Engel. As an architect, you will appreciate the detailed drawings. For theory and philosophy, I recommend "From Castle to Teahouse" by John B. Kirby, Jr. While everybody loves the sukiya style that became popular in the Momoyama period, it's good to know the roots, IMO. That gate is beautiful! I am very jealous of your wood working skills! Even though I've designed many structures, I haven't had the pleasure to /build/ anything. A couple years ago it was due to money, now it's due to storage space. Still, thank you for the reference material tip. I will have to put it on my christmas list this year. The problem with "period encampments" in our area of study is that actual encampments were minimal. Soldiers on campaign and the like would likely sleep under the open air, surrounded by jinmaku. Those who desired more substantial shelter would likely sleep in a local temple or take over a peasant's household. I'd love to see somebody build a minka farmhouse encampment, but those things are pretty heavy. As a group project, recreating the entire village from "Seven Samurai" would totally win the SCA. I understand the "period encampments" problem, but I think there's room enough to build a collapsable structure that resembles a temple, no? As far as I can see the biggest problems are: - waterproofing: so many tents get flooded but it would be nice not to have a newly minted design fall victim to the gods of water.
- transportation: to and from events and storage afterwards have always been hard for me.
- creating a hipped roof that has the right look minus the weight
Maybe I'll figure it out one day. In the meantime, I will dream of that minka farmhouse village or that group of SCAdians sporting a Heian shinden-zukuri.
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Post by roninpenguin on Nov 17, 2013 1:36:08 GMT -5
It's funny that this has been brought up because my next BIG project (ie a project that I am not going to be able to start until I get the right elements in place) is my own version of the Tea House that was on Yama Kaminari's site a while back. I was inspired to do it after giving guidance to my friend in his efforts to build a Japanese Home inspired trailer. I have to admit that I saw what he did and went "You know, I now have to do better than that".
It should be interesting but so many things are going to have to fall into place for me I don't think I'm going to get to tackle it until next winter.
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Post by Kagami Tomoko on Nov 17, 2013 20:34:47 GMT -5
It's funny that this has been brought up because my next BIG project (ie a project that I am not going to be able to start until I get the right elements in place) is my own version of the Tea House that was on Yama Kaminari's site a while back. I was inspired to do it after giving guidance to my friend in his efforts to build a Japanese Home inspired trailer. I have to admit that I saw what he did and went "You know, I now have to do better than that". It should be interesting but so many things are going to have to fall into place for me I don't think I'm going to get to tackle it until next winter. Do you happen to have pictures of the trailer? I find that one of the sad parts about the Japanese SCA community is that research often gets lost on the internet or images come down.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 23:13:43 GMT -5
I have never personally been to Pennsic but I understand the problems of water infiltration. Do you know anyone that has successfully built anything 4" - 8" off the ground? Perhaps using CMU or other structural footings? Well, if you build off the ground, then you have to build a floor. To build a floor you have to transport the material to site. Most people who build off the ground build on a trailer, so that the whole structure can be transported. The campground has very reasonable rates for storing trailers between Pennsics. Thanks. The gate is the biggest thing I've ever built, and until it was all put together it was mostly a theoretical exercise. Then two weeks later we took it back apart and put the pieces in storage. In terms of money, the clan and some members paid for the materials so I just had to make sure the money wasn't wasted. Buy some land and grow your own paulownia. It grows quickly, but needs to be dried properly.
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