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Post by rjsimmons on Apr 4, 2008 16:44:51 GMT -5
thank you, another book to add to my "buy list". i have a quick question, i have noticed many pictures of the archers not wearing the sleeve on the arm holding the bow, why is that? The left arm is taken out of the sleeve to prevent it from becoming entangled in the tsuru (string) as the ya (arrow) is released in hanare. If you watch a kyudoka after the arrow is released, the bow string ends up on the outside of the left arm (when properly done, it has only happened to me a couple of times).
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Post by Rokurou on Apr 4, 2008 16:51:23 GMT -5
Funny, I found that the glove arm sleeve got in the way more than the bow arm sleeve. The glove arm sleeve kept getting in the way of me pulling arrows from my ebira and then the sleeve would get in the way when I was placing the arrow on the bow (if that makes sense). Not once did the bow or the string hit the bow arm sleeve, at least not that I remember. And I'm sure I would have noticed. The main thing I was doing at that shoot was try and get the steps down, and breathing properly versus doing everything right. I also found that I was a whole lot slower shooting than everyone else because I was concentrating on the steps.
*Side note* rjsimmons, I have the book (which I try to read/look at before I shoot), and I bought my Yumi, arrow and glove from Dan. Rokurou
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Post by Water_Tengu on Apr 4, 2008 20:29:43 GMT -5
thank you, another book to add to my "buy list". i have a quick question, i have noticed many pictures of the archers not wearing the sleeve on the arm holding the bow, why is that? Because Japanese sleeves are big and billowy, and you wouldn't want your arrow or bowstring to catch on one? Look at the pictures of archers where they are wearing sleeves. You'll notice in the photos from the HI competition that the archers are all wearing tightly bound sleeves. In the other photos, it's undershirt sleeves, which are much smaller than kosode sleeves. ok, they both make sense
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Post by rjsimmons on Apr 4, 2008 21:14:35 GMT -5
Funny, I found that the glove arm sleeve got in the way more than the bow arm sleeve. The glove arm sleeve kept getting in the way of me pulling arrows from my ebira and then the sleeve would get in the way when I was placing the arrow on the bow (if that makes sense). Not once did the bow or the string hit the bow arm sleeve, at least not that I remember. And I'm sure I would have noticed. The main thing I was doing at that shoot was try and get the steps down, and breathing properly versus doing everything right. I also found that I was a whole lot slower shooting than everyone else because I was concentrating on the steps. It is much like learning to walk. Once you have mastered the steps, running is simple. *Side note* rjsimmons, I have the book (which I try to read/look at before I shoot), and I bought my Yumi, arrow and glove from Dan. Rokurou While I have found Sensei DeProspero's book to be one of the best, it cannot replace live action. My recommendation is to search on YouTube, there are several videos of kyudoka in practice. The symmetry of the motions is quite serene, upset only by the violence of the release.
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Post by rjsimmons on Apr 4, 2008 21:21:40 GMT -5
I neglected to mention, Rokurou-san, that in kyudo, you do not wear ebira. That is a combat accessory. Kyudo is practiced with 2 arrows, ha-ya and oto-ya. They rotate opposite one another. Ha-ya rotates clockwise and oto-ya counter-clockwise. The reason for this is quite simple, they come from opposite wings of the hawk.
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Post by Rokurou on Apr 5, 2008 9:02:47 GMT -5
I also know that, as well. I was at an SCA event, not a dojo. So wearing an ebira would be the proper thing to do. I'm portraying a Bushi, not a Kyudoka. I do try to shoot properly, but only within the confines of the personae and time period I'm portraying. Now if I went to the dojo in Indy, I'd shoot as you've shown.
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Post by rjsimmons on Apr 6, 2008 10:08:37 GMT -5
Understood, I was simply trying to clarify how the bow arm could become entangled. The only archers I have seen use ebira are those who shoot in armor. In yabusame they carry their arrows in their obi. It is rather interesting to watch them draw forth the arrow on horseback...
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Post by Lash on Apr 6, 2008 10:44:08 GMT -5
Good morning everyone, there was a series on tv that I saw a long time ago I believe it was on the BBC it was called 'The Way of the Sword ?' I am not possitive on the name of the show but it showed how they made katanas , the short composite bows and a little on armor history. I have been looking for this show for a while because it also has a Kyudo Sensei doing a demonstration that was amazing. They also had a Go-Ju Ryu sensei doing a Kata demonstration that I want to see again. Keep in mind this series was on tv in the 80's . I am not very surfing saavy but have done the usual search engines but not knowing the title for sure doesnt help. Just a shot in the dark . Origato gozaimashita
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Post by Rokurou on Apr 6, 2008 14:01:18 GMT -5
Actually, for the outfit I'm wearing, an ebira is proper. I'm wearing a Kachie and on part of the out fit is an ebira (granted the one I'm wearing isn't the correct one, as well as the arrows I'm shooting, but I have to make due until I gather enough funds together to make a proper one and get proper arrows). A good pic of a Kachie being worn can be found here: www.sengokudaimyo.com/garb/garb.ch02.htmlI also need to get the proper eboshi, but like everything else I need to gather funds first. A good reference for its construction would help, too.
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Post by rjsimmons on Apr 6, 2008 21:03:35 GMT -5
I am certain Eff would have patterns or know where to find/make them. Like most things Japanese, they had to be simple.
The only thing that really drives me baka about the Japanese, are their hats. Not a one seems practical or rational. I am certain that the jingasa was a turtle shell that someone thought would make a good rain block...
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Post by Water_Tengu on Apr 6, 2008 21:32:53 GMT -5
The only thing that really drives me baka about the Japanese, are their hats. Not a one seems practical or rational. I am certain that the jingasa was a turtle shell that someone thought would make a good rain block... i agree completely.
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Post by Please Delete on Apr 6, 2008 21:37:22 GMT -5
The only thing that really drives me baka about the Japanese, are their hats. Not a one seems practical or rational. I am certain that the jingasa was a turtle shell that someone thought would make a good rain block... Practical? The kasa is extremely practical--I've worn it around when it is raining and it acts like an umbrella, but I don't need to use my hands. Jingasa pretty much grow out of the kasa for keeping the sun and rain off. Now the tate-eboshi and kanmuri--those are more decorative. Although Japan did seem to have an understandable fondness for hats with an open weave that could provide some natural air conditioning. -Josh
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Post by Imagawa Tadamori on Apr 7, 2008 3:29:28 GMT -5
I also need to get the proper eboshi, but like everything else I need to gather funds first. A good reference for its construction would help, too. groups.yahoo.com/group/sca-jml/files/Garb%20files/In that folder is a PDF on eboshi types, and while it does not contain a pattern, you can blow up the diagram to actual size and make a simple pattern from it. - Imagawa
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Post by rjsimmons on Apr 7, 2008 18:36:57 GMT -5
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Post by Rokurou on Apr 7, 2008 20:07:58 GMT -5
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