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Post by Noriko on Apr 29, 2008 15:32:53 GMT -5
I'm not just saying that because it comes in a pretty red box with a picture of Ono no Komachi on the box either. *googles out of curiousity* What a pretty bottle! Can I have it to put on my table for the spring flowers? j/k (;
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Post by Imagawa Tadamori on Apr 29, 2008 15:48:35 GMT -5
Wow... I've had Wandering Poet and that was some wonderful sake. I'm going to have to track down some Jinyu 100 Poems, then. And I agree... it is a good looking bottle. - Imagawa
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Apr 29, 2008 20:24:08 GMT -5
I saved the box. The bottle ended up at Bovil-dono and K's and if they have any sense whatsoever, they put it in recycling instead of trying to save it for me because they had quite ENOUGH to do chairing that convention.
It is, however, the box that includes Ono no Komachi's poetry:
See how the blossoms They are falling about me Fade after long rain While, quietly as in prayer I have gazed my life away.
The company that produces it is called Nabedana, Inc., if that is at all helpful.
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Post by Noriko on Apr 29, 2008 22:19:50 GMT -5
The company that produces it is called Nabedana, Inc., if that is at all helpful. Ah thanks. But considering that I have an alcohol sensitivity, it's probably not worth it. (; A sake cup full of seltzer for me!
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Post by bovil on Apr 30, 2008 18:40:45 GMT -5
I saved the box. The bottle ended up at Bovil-dono and K's and if they have any sense whatsoever, they put it in recycling instead of trying to save it for me because they had quite ENOUGH to do chairing that convention. It's in one of the liquor boxes that came back home yesterday. So much for common sense.
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Apr 30, 2008 18:43:50 GMT -5
It's in one of the liquor boxes that came back home yesterday. So much for common sense. That simply means we're just going to have to get together at some point. After you and the divine Mr. K. recover from Costume Con.
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Post by bovil on Apr 30, 2008 18:49:53 GMT -5
I bought a big bottle of the aforementioned Oni Karakuchi brewed by Toraya Shuzo in Sagae Yamagata. And it's still excellent. Light, clean, and very dry. I bought a bottle of Junshinmuku ("Naive Innocence," yes?) brewed by Heiwa Shuzou in Wakayama. We opened this bottle on Thursday night, figuring Naive Innocence was an appropriate way to begin the weekend. It was a bit sweet (much sweeter than I expected, but there was no sake meter rating), but very nice. It's not something I would buy again, though. I bought a bottle of Tenmei Daiginjo brewed by Akebono Shuzou in Fukushima. Mostly because of the gorgeous label. This was a bit of a surprise. It was pretty dry (although nowhere near as dry as the Oni Karakuchi) and strongly flavorful. I tend to expect delicacy from a premium dry sake, and this wasn't delicate. I liked it well enough to drink it, but not necessarily well enough to buy it again. We were also given a bottle of imported Ozeki (Junmai Ginjo, I think) that was very nice. The outstanding winners, though, were definitely the Oni Karakuchi and the 100 Poems.
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Post by bovil on Apr 30, 2008 18:50:49 GMT -5
It's in one of the liquor boxes that came back home yesterday. So much for common sense. That simply means we're just going to have to get together at some point. After you and the divine Mr. K. recover from Costume Con. There are quiet rumblings about a party at Imagecraft in a few weeks, but we've got schedules to check.
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Post by Ishikawa Yoshimasa on May 2, 2008 12:26:59 GMT -5
I am partial to haiku by gekikan... I consider the ozeki to be between gekikan standard and haiku. the gekikan silver is far too acidic for my taste... have not seen a black and gold to be able to judge it... sadly in Tennessee the selection is VERY limited... we can not even get commercial mead any longer as Tennessee has a tiered distribution system mandating that all wine stores purchase from one of a limited few distributes and they have lobbied successfully to block a direct importation law claiming it would destroy many jobs driving wine stores out of business, and make it easy for minors to mail order wines. (rolls eyes) Ishikawa PS: oh dianet so that is where my bottle went... I used to consider the haiku the sake to get for special occasions, then I realized that it is just a few dollars more, and certainly worth the difference in price over the standard gekikan
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Post by kurokamakiri on May 2, 2008 15:50:39 GMT -5
I am partial to haiku by gekikan... I consider the ozeki to be between gekikan standard and haiku. the gekikan silver is far too acidic for my taste... have not seen a black and gold to be able to judge it... sadly in Tennessee the selection is VERY limited... we can not even get commercial mead any longer as Tennessee has a tiered distribution system mandating that all wine stores purchase from one of a limited few distributes and they have lobbied successfully to block a direct importation law claiming it would destroy many jobs driving wine stores out of business, and make it easy for minors to mail order wines. (rolls eyes) Ishikawa There's no reason for that - several acceptable sakes are brewed, as Makiwara-hime pinted out in a related thread, in CALIFORNIA.
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on May 2, 2008 17:17:59 GMT -5
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Post by bovil on May 2, 2008 17:56:54 GMT -5
There's no reason for that - several acceptable sakes are brewed, as Makiwara-hime pinted out in a related thread, in CALIFORNIA. Herein I expose my overly-broad knowledge of alcohol distribution... All states have weird liquor laws; it's just a matter of degree. I've broken the law going to Pennsic, Philcon and MilPhil (the 2001 Worldcon). I carried liquor in my car/luggage rather than buying it in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania has very weird liquor laws. Not only can you not self-import, but liquor and wine must be bought through state liquor stores, and beer must be bought through beer distributors (although some bars are licensed for "off-sale" take-out beer sales). New York had a law that allowed New Yorkers to mail-order in-state, but not out-of-state. They didn't want direct sales from California wineries competing with direct sales from NY wineries. The California Winegrowers' Association took this to the Supreme Court and got it overturned, so it's no longer legal to have different rules for in-state and interstate commerce. All of those are "direct importation" restrictions. They're worried about us freaky-deaky Californians producing better product cheaper (thanks to our fabulous climate, agricultural heritage and obsession with great food and bev) and doing an end-run around their local businesses and blue laws.
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Post by Imagawa Tadamori on May 6, 2008 8:49:42 GMT -5
That looks mighty interesting... - Imagawa
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Post by erink on May 8, 2008 13:17:19 GMT -5
My favorite nigori is Shirakawago Sansanigori. Frost blue bottle, white label with blue printing on it. Ironically, I just tried this sake for the first time. (Haven't read the board in a few weeks, but I hit it last night after coming home from a nice dinner.) I wasn't crazy about it. It had some qualities of a nigori and some qualities of a daiginjo, but it lacked depth in either category. I can imagine that someone who wasn't a big fan of nigorizake might like it. I am a nigori fan, but I've liked almost all the modern ginjo/daiginjo I've tried. I'm unfortunately bad at remembering the names....! The one exception was a sparkling sake, which tasted quite sour. In Pennsylvania our sake choices are quite limited (and quality is always dubious). Looks like I'm heading to DC in June so I'm going to try to do some shopping there. Taking notes! My Pennsic standby is the giant bottle of Sho Chiku Bai nigori, which can be had in PA for about $12. It's very sweet and chewy. I don't know if I should be embarassed that I like it, but it reminds me of the milky sticky stuff the farmers drag out in Kurosawa movies! (Apparently it is a more ancient and rustic style.) I agree that the Nagasaki is decent, if you can get over the gimmicky bottle. Uh, let me look at the bottle collection - recently I've had (and enjoyed): - Hakushika "Fresh and Light" - this was listed as a "draft" sake on the menu - good flavor; strangely no aftertaste; the waiter recommended it when we were going to order something with a stronger flavor because we were having very delicate (and expensive) food - Hakushika Junmai Ginjo - blueish bottle with gold on label - Sho Chiku Bai "premium ginjo" - weird green moon drawing on label - Hakutsuru something - I think this is now labeled "draft" (http://www.hakutsuru-sake.com/content/011.html#c) - this is the standard cold sake of one of the more authentic Japanese restaurants around here and it's just fine. Reasonable price and reasonable taste. I had some Wandering Poet a few weeks ago, that was very nice. I have some untapped Nanbu Bijin in the fridge, it might be a little old, though. I really need to start keeping better notes on this stuff!
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on May 8, 2008 13:50:28 GMT -5
My Pennsic standby is the giant bottle of Sho Chiku Bai nigori, which can be had in PA for about $12. It's very sweet and chewy. I don't know if I should be embarassed that I like it, but it reminds me of the milky sticky stuff the farmers drag out in Kurosawa movies! I'm not embarrassed that I like it.
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