Saionji's latest project

[Saionji Shonagon]

Aug 21, 2008 13:07:29 GMT -5 Saionji Shonagon said:

Maybe the box will look better once it's sitting next to the ornamental koi pond.....

In case anyone thought I was kidding about the koi pond:
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[solveig]

Noble Cousin!

Greetings from Solveig!

Aug 21, 2008 13:07:29 GMT -5 Saionji Shonagon said:

Maybe the box will look better once it's sitting next to the ornamental koi pond.....

I fear that the box far far outshines the "ornamental koi pond".

[inume]

The koi are a great touch. ;D

[Noriko]

Hee hee, that's really cute. I was curious and it turns out then make motorized koi for swimming pools in case you want to try that next time (:

www.toysplash.com/Product/RainbowReefMotorizedKoi

[Saionji Shonagon]

Aug 25, 2008 17:00:24 GMT -5 Noriko said:

Hee hee, that's really cute. I was curious and it turns out then make motorized koi for swimming pools in case you want to try that next time (:

I'd need a much bigger pond for those bad boys.

[Saionji Shonagon]

Last Saturday morning, I came downstairs and discovered that someone had managed to pop the back door on my camper shell and make off with a folding garden cart and, of all things, the suguroku box. (I can only assume they believed it might have had tools in it or something.)

One of this weekend's errands will be a trip to Daiso Japan to replace the House of Cheerful Monkeys' teapots, tea cups and other serving ware. The other, to pick up some plywood since it seems I have another winter project now. I should probably document the actual construction portion, since it involves assembly a six board chest without shop space or tools more complicated than a hand saw and a couple of C-clamps.

(And yes, I installed a hasp with a lock on the shell this week to prevent, or at least slow down, future bandits.)

[Yamanouchi Eidou]

THERE'S A DAISO IN AMERICA!?

[Saionji Shonagon]

So far only in the SF Bay and Seattle areas.
www.daiso-sangyo.co.jp/english/storeinfo/storeinfo03.html

If you need a dose of 100-yen tchatchkes, they have an online store as well: www.daisojapan.com/

[Deleted]

Here is my effort at a sugorokuban. It's not as large or fancy as yours, and it gave me no end of trouble during construction, but most of what I was attempting with it succeeded.

Link to more pictures and some text.

Box and pieces all poplar, stained with iron acetate, finished with linseed oil. I bought the horn and bone dice, but made everything else. There's even a significant amount of hand tool use involved.

[Saionji Shonagon]

Wow, someone who does real carpentry. My design relies on a great deal of pre-cut craft plywood. ;-D

Nice work!

[AJBryant]

Nice!!

Sugoroku needs a bigger presence.

[Saionji Shonagon]

I started working on the sugoroku box 2.0 last night. Amazing what one can do with a small hand saw, a bottle of Tite-bond II and a great deal of pre-cut craft plywood.

Four 12" x 24 x 1/4" sheets for the bottom, sides and lid, two 12" x 12 x 1/4" sheets for the sides.

Some 1/2" square dowels are cut and used to hold the whole thing together and some 24" x 1/4" square dowel strips will be glued to the tops of each long side and to the edges of the lid so that everything squares up correctly. 100% glued joinery (the stolen one held quite a bit of moderately heavy crap and never failed on me), and the only cutting is on the dowels and can be easily achieved with a small hand saw or craft saw over my kitchen sink.

I'm in the gluing and clamping stage, which, owing to the fact that I have only a couple of C-clamps, is easy but takes time. I don't think you can see it here, but the long splats are recessed slightly from the end - this is so the end boards can be fitted.
pics.livejournal.com/gurdymonkey/pic/000ar4d7/

I recall that trying to decorate the end boards last time made me nuts. This time, I'm going to decorate them before they get glued into the body of the box - the first of several coats of black paint has just been applied. Maybe this time I won't paint it out and start over again so many times.

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Jan 23, 2010 17:10:39 GMT -5 Saionji Shonagon said:

I started working on the sugoroku box 2.0 last night. Amazing what one can do with a small hand saw, a bottle of Tite-bond II and a great deal of pre-cut craft plywood.

You said it. I've seen some awesome work with very few tools. You just have to have a good idea what you want to do and how to accomplish it with the tools you have.

Four 12" x 24 x 1/4" sheets for the bottom, sides and lid, two 12" x 12 x 1/4" sheets for the sides.

Huge! My sugorokuban is only about 11"x15"x6". If mine goes missing I'll look inside yours. ;D

Some 1/2" square dowels are cut and used to hold the whole thing together and some 24" x 1/4" square dowel strips will be glued to the tops of each long side and to the edges of the lid so that everything squares up correctly.

Good plan. The storage karabitsu I made are fully framed out in a similar way. www.ee0r.com/proj/images/k5-body02.jpg

100% glued joinery (the stolen one held quite a bit of moderately heavy crap and never failed on me), and the only cutting is on the dowels and can be easily achieved with a small hand saw or craft saw over my kitchen sink.

Any carpenter will tell you that most projects are held together by glue. Nails and screws provide some bracing, and keep everything together while the glue cures, but without the glue everything would fall apart.

I'm in the gluing and clamping stage, which, owing to the fact that I have only a couple of C-clamps, is easy but takes time.

That's where a light hammer and some wire brads would help out. Glue, clamp, nail, remove clamps, and move on.

I don't think you can see it here, but the long splats are recessed slightly from the end - this is so the end boards can be fitted.
pics.livejournal.com/gurdymonkey/pic/000ar4d7/

Won't your end pieces stick up above your side pieces by a quarter inch?

Nice work so far; I hope everything keeps going smoothly. I'm learning chisel work, and today I hand cut four half-dovetail mortises in 3/4" poplar. My chisel hand is so sore right now I have to keep it wrapped around a cold beer for medical purposes.

[Saionji Shonagon]

Jan 23, 2010 18:46:00 GMT -5 @ishiyama said:

Won't your end pieces stick up above your side pieces by a quarter inch?

Why, yes. Yes they do. ;D

This is where those teeny little 1/4" x 24" square dowels come in.


Two more go down the long sides of the lid board so that fits. (Look for the gold "border" on the lid of the original one posted in this thread). And then two more go down the long sides of the inside of the lid board to keep it from sliding off.

[Saionji Shonagon]

This just in from Makiwara-ya.



I realize that most people do the painting after everything is assembled. However, I remember from version 1.0 what a pain in the neck it was to try to decorate the short sides of a large box. I could never work at a comfortable angle and I swear I painted them out and did them over several times before I was happy with them. (See page one of this thread for original whinging upon the subject.)

This time I painted the end boards while they were still just boards. Dirty little secret: Deco Color Paint Pens are excellent to work with. I had one with an extra fine point and the water lines are just so much nicer and more fluid on this version.

Hardware is mounted temporarily - I wanted to make sure I had drilled large enough holes for the screws. The first end board is waiting for the glue to dry. The second will get installed in about an hour. Tomorrow will be devoted to applying coats of paint to the unpainted sections of the chest, painting the game surface on the lid, and, I'm quite certain, touch ups.

(For Ishiyama-dono, you should be able to see where the 1/4" filler strips run along the top edges of the long sides so that the end boards have something even to fit into.)