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Post by qba on Jan 7, 2009 4:05:35 GMT -5
Can anybody show me or make a picture of XV/XVI century war camp..
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Jan 7, 2009 7:32:37 GMT -5
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Post by qba on Jan 7, 2009 13:13:14 GMT -5
Ok. but, do you know something where the tent's was placed..Eg Roman camp look like that  What about Japan?? |
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Post by solveig on Jan 8, 2009 10:11:58 GMT -5
Noble Cousin! Greetings from Solveig! Battle paintings generally depict the area within the jinmaku as being a headquarters unit during actual operations. They do not show tents for troops arranged inside the jinmaku. What they do show is a number of people in armor sitting on camp stools with a number of other armored figures holding banner poles or serving as guards. For sieges and similar longer-term encampments, we do occasionally see barrack structures erected outside the jinmaku enclosure. However, I do not recall whether this was in a contemporaneous emaki or in a modern illustration. The Society has developed a cultural obsession with tents. Not everyone we are studying used them a whole lot. As I recall, William the Conqueror showed up with a prefabricated "motte and bailey". I do have access to emaki of wooden forts in Japan. Motte and Bailey  www.castlewales.com/motte.html |
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Post by qba on Jan 9, 2009 14:52:13 GMT -5
That is no good...I Thought that there is something about it...But on the other hand, people in japan had tents...But not for ashigaru...  How simple soldier survive cold night?? Where does he sleep?? |
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Post by solveig on Jan 9, 2009 17:34:10 GMT -5
Noble Cousin! Greetings from Solveig! [But on the other hand, people in japan had tents...But not for ashigaru...: Akunoya were primarily used for garden parties. That is what we have pictures of them being used for. People didn't necessarily fight wars during the Winter. Remember that Geo. Washington had his army go off to a Winter encampment. I believe that someone else here found a picture of a mino (straw rain cape) draped over an angled stick being used as sleeping quarters. We can also assume that soldiers attempted to sleep under tate. One modern illustration suggests that some soldiers may have hollowed out holes on the sides of embankments. Incidentally, I slept out under the night sky at Pennsic VI. |
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Post by crimsongriffin28 on Mar 8, 2010 3:59:25 GMT -5
 Was at National Museum, and saw this Kamakura era scroll with this party-tent on it. Knowing the dearth of tent imagery for Japanese research, used my iphone to snap off some pics. I love how the tent is bulging with people and drums. So, you see it does look like a car port with walls, and has mon on the roof. Good colors! Oh, you see the rest of the tent pics if you want in www.flickr.com/photos/crimsongriffin/sets/72157603863260878/Scroll down to see them. |
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Post by Yagyu Jubei Takemori on Mar 8, 2010 16:52:00 GMT -5
I actually had panther primitives get me an estimate for a 20'x20' enclosure set of curtains. At 6' tall, and 70' long with the straps sewn into the top for the lacing rope it was about $700 (the loops were 1" webbing at a 6" spacing). This allows for 3x20' sides and a 10' door on one side. You would have to do the decor and the wind holes yourself, and get poles. In the end I am building a yurt (wife is going Mongolian) and then Ill add the walls later. Also Makiwara-dono has a beautiful A-frame tent that she converted and I think looks great, pics (along with alot of other cool stuff) can be found at: www.wodefordhall.com |
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Mar 8, 2010 18:03:00 GMT -5
I actually had panther primitives get me an estimate for a 20'x20' enclosure set of curtains. 4 x 20' = 80' of 60" wide 10 oz cotton canvas @ $5/yard comes in at $135 (not including shipping) , not including tabs, ropes, poles or decoration. Your walls would only be 5' high though. Be warned, the infamous House of Cheerful Monkeys set-up is completely inauthentic. |
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Post by Yagyu Jubei Takemori on Mar 9, 2010 11:30:20 GMT -5
Good to know Ill have to use that link when I make my yurt and then walls.  |
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How simple soldier survive cold night?? Where does he sleep??
