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Post by Shimazu Masamune on Aug 16, 2006 15:49:21 GMT -5
Hello all!!! I am fairly new to the SCA, and in my search for my persona, I have decided on doing a japanese persona. Unfortunately, I have absolutely no idea as to what I am doing... can I ask for someone to help me out here??? For the time being, I just need to know what a male samurai of the age of eighteen would wear, from the Muromachi era, and what type of name my persona should have. Links to sites with such info would be greatly appriciated, esp. if they have patterns for clothing and the like. Thank you!
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Aug 16, 2006 17:15:31 GMT -5
Greetings, Many of our samurai guy types are off at the Pennsic War this week, but you can get a start with these: www.sengokudaimyo.com - the Miscellany includes sections on men's clothing and names. There's also an entire section on armor. If you go into the armor section and look for a chapter called "Beneath It All" there are links to patterns for hakama and hitatare. www.rhinohide.cx/tousando/yoriaku/index.html has a skin-out guide to what a samurai wears. While it's from an 18th century source, the stylistic differences in most men's garments from the Muromachi to early Edo are not that great and it includes some of Our Moderator's patterns and how-tos on certain items of clothing. Don't be alarmed by a predominance of pictures of women when you go to my website. www.wodefordhall.com/kosode.htmThe kosode is a unisex garment and I have tried to come up with comprehensive and easy to follow instructions on how to make one. Welcome. Saionji no Hanae
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Post by Shimazu Masamune on Aug 17, 2006 15:40:28 GMT -5
Thanks!!! The sites helped alot, I appriciate it!
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Post by Ishikawa Yoshimasa on Aug 17, 2006 18:22:45 GMT -5
konbanwa samurai... welcoe to the forum, and the community
in about a week or so thing will start getting back to normal around here...
some great and knowldgable people here.
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Post by Shimazu Masamune on Aug 19, 2006 15:35:17 GMT -5
Can I ask for opinions?
Tell me what you guys think of the name of Shimatzu no Kintaro Masamune.
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Post by AJBryant on Aug 20, 2006 20:38:15 GMT -5
Try "Shimazu Kintaro Masamune" -- note the spelling of Shimazu, and the removal of the "no".
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Post by Shimazu Masamune on Aug 21, 2006 16:29:15 GMT -5
Ohh, okay. Thanks alot!!!
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Post by AJBryant on Aug 21, 2006 21:41:53 GMT -5
No charge! Effingham
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Post by Shimazu Masamune on Aug 28, 2006 18:36:35 GMT -5
Okay, I'm going to be the annoying little kid on the block and ask some stupid questions, but here it goes...
FIRST: How many of you have a complete persona story? Do I have to have one soon, or what? I kinda have an idea of it, my friend and I are both doing Japanese persona and we want to have our stories intertwined, so...
SECOND: Does anyone know where I can get a Japanese style flute? I am wanting to learn to play either the shakuhachi or the ryuteki, but I don't have the $500 to spend on one.
Again, sorry if I'm asking stupid questions, but I'm kinda a bit lost (or is drowned a better word) in all the... funness of a Japanese persona
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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on Aug 28, 2006 19:21:55 GMT -5
RE: Persona Stories
You don't need one for the SCA. Persona stories can help you figure out when, where, who, and what. Fashion and technology changes over time. Different social classes have access to different materials and clothing styles. You can use persona stories to help define your reenactment to a particular time and place.
Sengoku armour and fashion is considerably different than Heian armour and fashion.
So just a pick a century ... or if you prefer, an 'era'
(very roughly ...) 0800-1200 Heian 1200-1350 Kamakura 1350-1570 Muromachi 1570-1600 Azuchi-Momoyama
(1450-1600 or so can also be described as the Sengoku jidai)
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Aug 28, 2006 19:37:57 GMT -5
1. You don't have to have a persona story at all. Many people just pick a name and that's as far as they ever get, or have to get. 2. If you do want to have one, you don't have to have one that intertwines with somebody else's - unless you want to. The premise of the SCA is that we are all from different places and cultures and coexisting at the same time in various laurel kingdoms of the known world. The easiest way to deal with this mind boggler is to go, "Oh, they're foreigners," and leave it at that. It makes it much easier to deal with having friends who live all over the world and timeline. 3. Please, for the love of all that's holy, don't try to cram stuff into your persona story that wouldn't plausibly fit just because it's an activity you want to pursue in the SCA. You want to have a Japanese persona and sing Elizabethan lute songs, just do it. 4. Keep it simple. When you meet someone for the first time, you don't tell them EVERY last detail about yourself. There's no need to do that in an SCA context either. Go have a look at our Member Profiles thread as there are some examples of persona stories posted there. tousando.proboards18.com/index.cgi?board=profilewww.asahi-net.or.jp/~dl1s-ymgc/index-e.htm actually has a DIY on making your own shinobue. Lark in the Morning carries some student model shakuhachi. Can't vouch for how good they are, but they have several well under $500. I would suggest that you email Lark if you find something you're interested in and ask for their return policy. On certain items they will make you eat a re-stocking fee of some sort, but you also don't want to be the proud owner of an instrument that does not measure up to what you want either. www.larkinam.com/search.asp?t=ss&ss=shakuhachi&x=0&y=0There are no stupid - no, that's not entirely true, as I've heard some dillies in my day. Your questions are not stupid ones though. Welcome to the fun, which never stops around here. Saionji no Hanae, West Kingdom
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Post by AJBryant on Aug 29, 2006 0:27:18 GMT -5
Shakuhachi are notoriously difficult. When I first started to study it at FSU, Prof. Dale used to hand prospective students a shakuhachi and give them two minutes to make a note. If they couldn't make a note in that time, they couldn't take the class.
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Post by erink on Aug 31, 2006 11:42:53 GMT -5
I bought a PVC shakuhachi on eBay for under $50. I don't see anyone selling them there now, but if you search "pvc shakuhachi" you can find instructions for making them. I never got a note out of it, but my beau (who played European flute in his younger days) did get something resembling a tone.
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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on Aug 31, 2006 12:39:09 GMT -5
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Aug 31, 2006 13:57:57 GMT -5
I think Lark in the Morning had a PVC shakuhachi on the page I posted earlier.
I don't play shakuhachi so I cannot comment up on ease or difficulty, but I own some PVC pennywhistles that have a pleasant, mellow sound and are a good all-weather instrument for playing at events.
Saionji
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