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Post by Yamanouchi Eidou on Oct 9, 2010 10:37:18 GMT -5
And we know anything historically because of archaeological finds and records. Where are the records of the Vedic Colony? Where is the hidden stash of madus?
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Post by Please Delete on Oct 10, 2010 8:35:14 GMT -5
Hiro: Could you please explain what you mean by "populated by boat"? Do you mean from the Polynesians or Euro-African lands? Have you seen this: genographic.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/lan/en/atlas.html (note, it is not showing direct migrations, but migrations that occurred over thousands of years, based on our understanding of the archaeology and the genetic profiles of modern indigenous inhabitants) Danny: As mentioned, the Vikings and Colombus have both been confirmed through archaeological and historical finds. The claim that Templars visited the New World seems to have less to offer even than the idea of early Romans in South America. I would leave that out of any claim you want to be taken seriously, as it confuses your point with unnecessary controversy. |
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Post by hiro on Oct 10, 2010 15:51:00 GMT -5
Hey Kasumori very neat site!
I guess specifically I meant the crazy polynesian sailors populating just about anything in the pacific. I know about the ethiopian visitors, but I don't know if they did anymore than arrive and teach some building techniques to the inhabitants alredy there.
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Post by dannyinjapan on Oct 15, 2010 20:28:57 GMT -5
Documentation and a pre-columbian stone-fort in New England.
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Post by Yamanouchi Eidou on Oct 15, 2010 22:11:53 GMT -5
That's...that's um...not really an argument.
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Post by bovil on Oct 15, 2010 22:53:54 GMT -5
That's...that's um...not really an argument. It's a great example of what's not there in the Indian Colonies in Japan discussion, though... |
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Post by Please Delete on Oct 16, 2010 2:59:53 GMT -5
Okay, that "Templar Tower" in New England I assume is Newport Tower. This is the kind of artifact that tends to gather such sensationalism, but its provenance is hardly "known". Here is a rather in depth discussion of the tower in question, with a rather long historiography surrounding the structure: www.neara.org/CARLSON/newporttower.htm. I tend to side with the Colonial theory. Regardless, there is definitely not an agreement within the historical community that it is evidence of Templar activity. The primary theories appear to be that it is a 17th century windmill, based off of colonial memories of another one in Chesterton, England, or that it is an ancient Norse building that was later repurposed, though I seriously question that the records of Rhode Island do not talk about finding, let alone repurposing, a structure that would have been evidence of someone having arrived on the spot long before them. The documentation is likewise sketchy. It in no ways proves that they went to America, which would have been quite the voyage given the entry that is often cited. I think, in the end, that Yamanouchi-dono and Bovil-dono are correct, here. -Ii |
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Post by Takeda Sanjuichiro on Oct 17, 2010 0:02:05 GMT -5
...The asymmetric bow (and I heard you say "slightly" asymmetric) is something, but even that could be parallel development--I'd have to see the bows. I do know that the asymmetric bow in Japan goes back to at least the 3rd century, as attested to in Chinese sources, and probably before that. As for Japan and India being the only places--just looking online shows that not to be the case. There appears to be one used by the Huns, and I'd be willing to bet you'd find others throughout Eurasia if you look--perhaps not as popular as the symmetric bow, which was also used in both India and Japan (though the latter tended to favor the Yumi, nonetheless)... Asymmetric bows have also shown up in native south American cultures and in use by the Lapp across Northern Asia... And while I personally see a large number of similarities between the Aniu culture of Hokkaido and that of the Lapp (look at the shamantic rituals and the textiles in particular) I am not prepared to say with certainty that the one defiantly had to do with the other... -Takeda |
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Post by spearweasel on Oct 17, 2010 22:15:36 GMT -5
Documentation and a pre-columbian stone-fort in New England. It just keeps getting better! I have to wonder if you are now trolling us. |
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