Iori
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Post by Iori on Apr 16, 2011 7:02:03 GMT -5
Have been scouting for videos and sites that explore two-handed techniques and theories. I'm interested to see if and how Kendo/Kenjutsu techniques transfer to the SCA combat system, or how one must modify said techniques in order to survive. I've enjoyed reading Marc de Arundel's site on the Bastard Sword www.scabastardsword.com/And Bellatrix site and videos www.bellatrix.org/school/www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q846uUCR3zU&feature=feedfAny other videos and resources for the aspiring sword jock??? --Iori
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Post by Kano Hiroyoshi on Apr 16, 2011 22:29:09 GMT -5
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Post by Iori on Apr 17, 2011 9:32:27 GMT -5
Great links. It's nice to find some videos that have decent resolution. Anybody have any links to fighters training or competing with Japanese weapons?
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Post by Please Delete on Apr 17, 2011 11:06:24 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/user/NAKORN66Lord Grimr, our seneschal, videos just about all of our local practices. Most people here prefer polearms and two-handed swords, or two-sword styles, and there is a fair bit of Japanese armor Unfortunately, you won't find me in a really decent kit--Japanese or European--at the moment. I also am not saying that this is *typical* or even *good* SCA fighting. Most of the fighters are new (1~2 years), and I'm the most experienced, which is really scary. I'm working on getting my kit, stamina, and endurance improved, and I find I have a tendency to be much less dynamic than I should be. Because these are mostly practice fights, you'll see all sorts of things (people fighting in jeans and t-shirt + armor, mix-and-match loaner gear, etc.).
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Post by Iori on Apr 17, 2011 16:05:34 GMT -5
SCA in Thailand. I dig!
The first part of the video looked like a Kendo match in European armor. Like getting a men ippon while moving through molasses.
I particularly like watching you guys fight with the pole arms. I'd really like to play around with this, considering I don't have access to Naginata equipment in my current group.
How did you make the pole arm? Is it just a layer of foam on the striking edge with a standard stabbing tip?
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Post by Please Delete on Apr 17, 2011 21:11:58 GMT -5
For a naginata, I usually just use an unpadded pole. That means a (usually maximum length) piece of rattan with thrusting tips at both ends. I figure out how large I want my blade and usually put some foam or other such material there as a tsuba. I'll usually wrap down from there another foot or so--I like grip tape, as it will help with shield grabs, since you can't always rely on just the tsuba. BTW, the shield grab with the naginata, unless you curve your rattan at the end, helps to have a smaller blade size so that you don't have the blade past your opponent when you want to thrust. On the other hand, smaller blade size means you have to choke up a lot more in close or you end up hafting your opponent.
For other polearms, we mold heads out of foam and leather--depending on how hard they are, we then add pieces of split rattan on the ends.
-Ii
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Post by pallidus on Apr 18, 2011 17:18:28 GMT -5
@katsumori- could you please describe your shield grab technique and how you follow up after it?
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Post by pallidus on Apr 18, 2011 17:25:05 GMT -5
I purchased Duke Palymars advanced pole arm video. EXCELLENT- if you do any pole arm fighting, it is SO worth the $15. www.medievalfighting.com/
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Post by Please Delete on Apr 18, 2011 20:01:25 GMT -5
pallidus: For me, shield grabs with a polearm tend to start with a strike to the head (sometimes to the side) to force the defender to block with the shield. By maintaining contact (i.e. not bouncing off), you can usually pull back and away (down or to the side) to displace the shield. You then have a moment where you can follow up with a thrust, usually to the face. This works with most polearms that have any kind of protuberance, or curve. Different shields pivot differently, and different stances are weak in different directions. Vulnerabilities seem to be: 1) If they follow you into the pull--in this case they use the pull as a chance to get close to you. Be ready to block and evade and go again (or have some fun up close). 2) They may be able to follow the grab and recover as you thrust. Still... the more you make them move that shield the more it will wear down their arms, and every time they raise the shield to avoid a thrust gives you a moment to change position.
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Post by pallidus on Apr 19, 2011 4:43:11 GMT -5
Thank you, I will try it and tell you how it works for me. BTW- do you also use the tsuba to grab the shield?
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Post by Please Delete on Apr 19, 2011 21:08:49 GMT -5
If I have a good tsuba I usually use it. Depends on the tsuba (and the shield) as to how effective it is.
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Post by usegikagetora on Sept 23, 2011 21:48:29 GMT -5
I'm suppose to go visit my Mother in Bangkok, come January. I'll bring my armor! I can't wait to fight with some Thai Folks!
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Post by Uryuu Ujishige on Sept 28, 2011 3:47:47 GMT -5
Who's the fighter with the green drap on his helm in the National Stadium video? How long has he been doing SCA combat? I was impressed with his overall movement and cutting technique.
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Post by Please Delete on Sept 28, 2011 22:25:55 GMT -5
I believe that would be Lord Leonardo Phenix. He's been doing this about 2 years now. He does have very good movement skills; he has also done kendo and krabi krabong (Thai sword), and he spends a lot of time practicing or looking for videos online of people to emulate.
-Ii
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Post by Uryuu Ujishige on Sept 29, 2011 0:07:08 GMT -5
I could tell he had some form of training. There are not that many videos out there that I would reccomend. There are some kenjutsu videos that will help with holding the sword, sword attitudes, proper movement, and proper cutting techniques, but not in terms of utilizing them in combat. They will help him to learn what those aspects are supposed to look like, and he can try to emmulate them to learn muscle memory, but learning to apply them in combat is purely an experience thing.
I might be able to help him with that though. I have written a pamplet on combat kenjutsu that may be of some small assistance. My "style" (as it were), and the pamplet, is based in Go Rin No Sho (The Book Of Five Rings) and covers all of the basic aspects of using kenjutsu in combat. Ask him if it might be something he would be willing to consider looking at. If he approves I will be happy to e-mail it to him.
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