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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 16:46:44 GMT -5
We actually loaded the assembled gate onto two wheeled carts and transported to the Great Hall for the Known World A&S Display. The carts got us to within 30 feet of the entrance before breaking. We carried it the rest of the way, and you should have seen the jaws drop. I spent 5 hours talking about the gate and Japanese woodworking, then we loaded it back onto the (repaired) carts and wheeled it back to camp. I promised that this exploit would not be repeated. Despite the abuse, the gate survived the rest of Pennsic and came apart fine for storage. Two! Two Pennsics survived! Ah ha ha ha!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2018 21:16:12 GMT -5
To go on either side of the gate (Gosh, the gate project was five years ago already. We just set it up for the sixth time today.), we needed new camp walls this year. I didn't make them all myself. Whew, that would have been a lot of work, but I had plenty of help from others this time. Each wall section is 2 feet wide, and made mostly of plywood. The pavilions have metal carport frames, and the wall panels just hang from those on hooks. The "stucco" parts of the walls have a sandy texture achieved by mixing playground sand into paint. The "windows" have shoji paper in them. I can't wait to see them at dusk lit up from the inside. The design is based on this Peter Dennis illustration from Stephen Turnbull's "Japanese Temples and Monasteries AD 710-1602", only not, you know, on fire.
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Post by Samejima Masatoshi on Jul 30, 2018 21:27:11 GMT -5
Wow, that looks great. I'd love to see more of this sort, I love seeing how people build camps and make them awesome.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 13:13:32 GMT -5
Wow, that looks great. I'd love to see more of this sort, I love seeing how people build camps and make them awesome. On either side of the walls, and from there all the way around camp, we use jinmaku camp curtains ("windscreens") to define the borders of camp and give up a little more in-camp privacy. It's a bit of work to make more every year, but they look so much better when they are bright red and dark black. The faded ones wind up working their way around to the back of camp over time. Even just a couple of jinmaku on either side of a gate can really make a camp stand out from its neighbors, and let visitors know where the "front door" of a camp is located.
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Post by Samejima Masatoshi on Aug 5, 2018 10:00:14 GMT -5
What material do you make the jinmaku out of, and how do you keep them in place without suffering damage from winds? Canvas? I've done camp walls from thick fabric before and they didn't survive well in the wind storm we had.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 20:55:20 GMT -5
What material do you make the jinmaku out of, and how do you keep them in place without suffering damage from winds? We use a cotton/poly broadcloth because we have found it holds its color better thn most anything else. It's not very heavy at all. If we decide that severe weather is inbound, we slide the jinmaku to one side and tie them to the poles.
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Post by Samejima Masatoshi on Aug 11, 2018 20:56:42 GMT -5
What material do you make the jinmaku out of, and how do you keep them in place without suffering damage from winds? We use a cotton/poly broadcloth because we have found it holds its color better thn most anything else. It's not very heavy at all. If we decide that severe weather is inbound, we slide the jinmaku to one side and tie them to the poles. Thank you! The poles you use, anything special there? Driven into the ground or sitting flat and weighted?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 17:32:59 GMT -5
The poles you use, anything special there? Driven into the ground or sitting flat and weighted? The poles are normally just square poles cut from 2x4 lumber, with a screw eye up top for the cord that supports the jinmaku to tie off to. The poles are held vertical by "portable hole" devices. The clan has a large number of these things, of various vintages. Usually, they are a piece of rebar with a couple short pieces of pipe welded on.
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Post by Samejima Masatoshi on Aug 13, 2018 2:25:31 GMT -5
The poles you use, anything special there? Driven into the ground or sitting flat and weighted? The poles are normally just square poles cut from 2x4 lumber, with a screw eye up top for the cord that supports the jinmaku to tie off to. The poles are held vertical by "portable hole" devices. The clan has a large number of these things, of various vintages. Usually, they are a piece of rebar with a couple short pieces of pipe welded on. That makes sense. Thank you for being patient with my interrogations, I appreciate it. I'm having plans for a small Japanese campsite theme and so far it all looks very achievable.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 11:06:31 GMT -5
That makes sense. Thank you for being patient with my interrogations, I appreciate it. I'm having plans for a small Japanese campsite theme and so far it all looks very achievable. It is my pleasure to help out. For my part, I am sorry that I have not done a better job of anticipating your next question. That comes from making too many assumptions about what you might already know. Yama Kaminari has been using this system since way before I even started camping there, so it just feels like something "everybody knows".
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Post by Samejima Masatoshi on Aug 15, 2018 20:27:06 GMT -5
That makes sense. Thank you for being patient with my interrogations, I appreciate it. I'm having plans for a small Japanese campsite theme and so far it all looks very achievable. It is my pleasure to help out. For my part, I am sorry that I have not done a better job of anticipating your next question. That comes from making too many assumptions about what you might already know. Yama Kaminari has been using this system since way before I even started camping there, so it just feels like something "everybody knows". No apologies needed. When I normally construct tents and have done tent walls, I've done so by attaching them to star pickets. I was impressed with the photos I saw of the Yama Kaminari camp, as I didn't see any evidence of star pickets - which lead to my question. The idea of fixing them in portable holes hadn't occured to me as it's not something we do locally, outside of setting up banners, but on reflection it's a fairly obvious and simple solution that leaves a minimal footprint on underground infrastructure (no leaking water pipes is always a plus). Thank you again. If you have any photos of the campsite you are able to share I would really enjoy seeing how you do things. Hopefully I can make Pennsic in the next few years so I can see for myself.
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