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Post by rjsimmons on Jan 7, 2005 15:48:18 GMT -5
I'm fishing for any inputs on making an ebira. I have seen the ones at kabutographics, but am disinclined to acquiesce to his demands for $250 for something so small. And for those wondering, here is what I am talking about.    |
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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on Jan 7, 2005 18:50:51 GMT -5
I think it is fine hand work. I don't know the hours he put in them, but it is likely rather more than few. Perhaps a trade can be arranged.
Be that as it may... I believe I have some detailed sketches of ebira in a Japanese volume of the Honcho Gunkiko. The paper is thin, so I don't know how well they will copy, but I would be happy to mail you them. However, that would not be until the end of Febuary as I am on the road again.
I have made some oversized ebira to hold golf-tube arrows for combat archery, but these I made with modern materials.
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Post by Date Saburou Yukiie on Jan 16, 2005 11:04:51 GMT -5
I'm fishing for any inputs on making an ebira. I have seen the ones at kabutographics, but am disinclined to acquiesce to his demands for $250 for something so small. And for those wondering, here is what I am talking about. This is the ref page the pics were taken from: www.kabutographics.com/kinetics/ebira.html Major Simmons, Sir, I demand nothing. I am an artist who makes fine things, and sell to those who have fine tastes. If you are disinclined towards my work, so be it. I am proud to say that I do put in countless hours on making these ebira, and if you are disinclined to purchase the ones I make, that is fine. I know the hand made ebira in Japan sell for upwards of $750.00, if you can find someone who is willing to sell you them, or make you one by hand. I am also proud to say that members of the Takeda Ryu Yabusame Group have purchased my ebira, are quite happy with them, and say it is the finest thing they have found outside of Japan - especially for the price. They do not find my work a small thing. When one can pay $25.00 per shaft, and arrows can cost $200.00 per matched pair, a thing like this is a paultry sum to consider. There is no need to berate my work. Do you keep your fine golf clubs in a garbage can? Truthfully, I must admit I get a kick out of a gaijin such as my self who enjoys playing samurai being able to market such a thing to Japan. However, Sir, I do hope you find one somewhere to your liking. You could even try making one...But I would like to point out that I have put in a great deal of effort to make and learn about my craft, including personal interviews with Shibata Sensai - a living National treasure. You know - the family that makes bows and equipment to the emperor... Incidentally, Shibata-sensei thinks I am undercharging... Some do not have the time, skills, or equipment to make things like this. Those that find themselves in such a situation can come to me if they like. I stand behind my work and wish you a prosperous new year. Date Saburou Yukiie Yama Kaminari Ryu Christopher Wright Former Marine E5 Semper Fi *quotation html tags corrected by Moderator |
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Post by rjsimmons on Jan 16, 2005 14:39:32 GMT -5
I was in no way berating your work. Merely that I could not, or as you alluded to, would not afford the cost of your craftsmanship. I believe you do remarkebly fine work and it is a testament to you that you are successful in doing so.
Indeed I am interested in making one by hand, I tend to do that. I make my own saya, tsuka, menuki, and tsuba for my swords as well as do my own tsuka-maki replete with same-gawa. I have made my own ya for kyudo and make all of my own clothing for the SCA. Might be why I carry a Laurel.
Don't be insulted by the fact that I haven't purchased one of your ebira, I do find them fantastically made and aesthetically pleasing. Be proud of your work, as I believe that you are. But don't snap at me for not wanting to fork out $250 a copy. That is my choice. Were I to join the IKF and compete in Japan in yoroi, you would be getting a call from me. But until that time (don't hold your breath, cause they don't allow gaijin), I will settle for one of my own making.
Semper Fi Marine,
Randall
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Post by Date Saburou Yukiie on Jan 17, 2005 6:29:47 GMT -5
Major,
Of course a man may spend his zeni and yen as he sees fit - I am not upset at you in any way for that. I was mearly replying to what, on the surface of few supporting reasons from your first post, seems as if you believe that the ebira I produce were not worth the ducquats. It seemed an implication against the quality of my work, and not an indication of man's spending habbits.
Gomen nassai.
Thank you for your follow up comments...I appreciate that.
And I am much more polite than to snap at a man whom I have never met...so you may rest assured I am just smiling and defending my skills...
I look forward to meeting you some day, sir...perhaps at a pennsic if you ever come our way...Please feel free to stop in at the Yama Kaminari camp and visit...
Date Saburou Yukiie
Yama Kaminari Ryu
Semper Fi, Marine
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Post by rjsimmons on Jan 17, 2005 10:01:32 GMT -5
Thanks for the invitation, and it would be a grand time. However, I am off to Naval Post-Graduate school in Monterey for a 2-1/2 year venture and will be unable to attend Pennsic.
My original post was not meant as a slight and I apologise if that is how you took it. Your work is exceptional and you have every right to boast.
Semper Fi,
Randall
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Post by Date Saburou Yukiie on Jan 17, 2005 17:50:08 GMT -5
OT - but I will try to tie it in...
I went to explosive school at Redstone, Alabama, and then Air assault school...all as an NCO...I wanted to go maveric after that, but I was too old...(I would have graduated OCS month after the cut-off...)
I had been doing the job of an officer when the first Gulf war broke out...with 62 people under me...setting up ammo dumps in northern Saudi Arabia...tee-ing off once we reached Iraq and Kuwait...
In short...I wish you much luck in your schooling, and hope you are well read on your Sun Tzu!
Semper fi, tomodachi...if there is anything I can help you with, Sir - ebira wise, or sand-ways...let me know...
Perhaps we can shoot in armor together some time..
As I mentioned, I have been somewhat educated in certain shooting techniques...ones you might find interesting.
Date Saburou Yukiie
Yama Kaminari Ryu
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Post by rjsimmons on Jan 18, 2005 12:00:08 GMT -5
OT - but I will try to tie it in... I went to explosive school at Redstone, Alabama, and then Air assault school...all as an NCO...I wanted to go maveric after that, but I was too old...(I would have graduated OCS month after the cut-off...) I had been doing the job of an officer when the first Gulf war broke out...with 62 people under me...setting up ammo dumps in northern Saudi Arabia...tee-ing off once we reached Iraq and Kuwait... In short...I wish you much luck in your schooling, and hope you are well read on your Sun Tzu! Semper fi, tomodachi...if there is anything I can help you with, Sir - ebira wise, or sand-ways...let me know... Perhaps we can shoot in armor together some time.. As I mentioned, I have been somewhat educated in certain shooting techniques...ones you might find interesting. Date Saburou Yukiie Yama Kaminari Ryu All my Sun Tzu is complete. I finished Command & Staff over 1 year ago. I will be studying Info Tech at NPS and looking forward to it. A couple of friends of mine are currently in the MOS I will get upon graduation (and subsequent acceptance of my thesis). I had my 27th BDay while I was at OCS, one of the oldest kids there, the cut off for it was 27-1/2. I would truly enjoy shooting with you armoured up. I have yet to see many folks in the SCA doing the armour shoot and think it would add a great deal to the event. Maybe the next Inter-Kingdom that I get involved in, I will shoot in armour. My kyudo sensei has demonstrated quite a few methods, some of which are directly attributable to being in armour when shooting. Semper Fi, Randall |
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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on Jan 18, 2005 12:54:30 GMT -5
My kyudo sensei has demonstrated quite a few methods, some of which are directly attributable to being in armour when shooting. Does that include a draw to the chest? |
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Post by Date Saburou Yukiie on Jan 18, 2005 14:18:37 GMT -5
Otagiri-dono...
I can show you draw-to-the-chest...I have been doing warihiza...
in armor...
the draw is simple...
Date Saburu Yukiie...
Yama Kaminari Ryu...
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Post by rjsimmons on Jan 19, 2005 16:24:37 GMT -5
Otagiri-dono... I can show you draw-to-the-chest...I have been doing warihiza... in armor... the draw is simple... Date Saburu Yukiie... Yama Kaminari Ryu... Yukiie, I did want to apologize to you for not giving credit for the use of your photos of ebira. Gomen nasai. It was an oversight and shall not happen again. Semper Fi, rj |
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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on Feb 4, 2005 0:27:31 GMT -5
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Post by rjsimmons on Feb 4, 2005 11:23:36 GMT -5
Seen them. I also have spoken to Chris about them, where he got the designs, etc. Gaston does some amazing work at his shop. I have even purchased a globose kit from him.   |
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Post by BigMek on Feb 4, 2005 13:17:33 GMT -5
I was wondering, is it possible to make an Ebira which could hold LARP arrows?
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Post by rjsimmons on Feb 4, 2005 17:58:14 GMT -5
I was wondering, is it possible to make an Ebira which could hold LARP arrows? I'm not familiar with LARP arrow specifications, but it should not be outside of the design criteria for the ebira. The basket is large enough to hold a good deal of arrows as it is, just modify the gridwork that keeps the arrows in place. |
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