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Post by Michimasa on Dec 13, 2004 11:58:04 GMT -5
Well, never wear one, never handle one, never seen one..... So all you can share will be usefull :-) Yes I've seen the pattern on sengokudaimyo, but I need more details (like size, should I cut two of this shape and sew a center seam ?, what about the tie lenght ?). Anybody with an eboshi, a digital cam and a couple of minutes to share pics The flat thing, how to put it on, how to fold and tie Mik
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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on Dec 13, 2004 12:25:49 GMT -5
You can wear them tall Or you can wear them flat You can tie in front Or tie in back AnneLiese' page has a pic of them standing tall: fibers.destinyslobster.com/Meet/meetindex.htmTo wear them flat, you can fold them to the side or fold the top to lay to the back. The ties I have seen are all basically bow knots with or without a wrap or two to hide the knot - like a hakama knot. I use a double-fold bias tape/binding for the material for the ties. I understand that the standing eboshi get a lot of starch to make them stiff. Here is my page for them: rhinohide.cx/tousando/img/hikitate.jpgHope this helps
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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on Dec 13, 2004 13:02:53 GMT -5
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Post by Michimasa on Dec 13, 2004 14:22:31 GMT -5
Ok, so there is a center seam. Now for size, I guess it should fit rather tight ? What height should it be ? Is it always black with white tie ? What would be the PROPER material to use ? I never used starch, will it make cotton rigid enough ?
Hummm still so many questions :-)
Mik
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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on Dec 13, 2004 15:26:35 GMT -5
Ok, so there is a center seam. Now for size, I guess it should fit rather tight ? Not too tight. That is why there is a tie. The link to my hikitate-eboshi pattern is a scale version of an image I found on the net. It is 1.5xC where C is the circumferance of the head. Almost always, but I have seen some others. This I do not know. Since I let mine lay flat, I don't use the starch. Yup. Hope some others jump in.
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Post by Michimasa on Dec 15, 2004 9:55:07 GMT -5
Otagiri dono, the infos you provide so far are much usefull, I assure you. I just printed the pattern to scale. Now the white border (tie), should it be sew to the edge of the eboshi or over the material (does it overlap with the black material or not) ?
Mik
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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on Dec 15, 2004 10:30:05 GMT -5
I have not handled real eboshi - so I cannot say how they are made.
I use double-fold binding so that I can place a fold of the white binding on either side of the unhemmed black cloth so that there are three layers - white, black, white - and then sew that together.
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Post by Michimasa on Dec 15, 2004 10:35:39 GMT -5
Well it make sence to me since it make for a more robust edge, I shall go that way then.
Thanks again,
Mik
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Post by Michimasa on Dec 15, 2004 14:55:40 GMT -5
Made my first eboshi during lunch time. Much easier then I expected. It took about 20 min. Of course there are some minor finishing to do, but it dosn't look too bad.
Many thanks again for your help.
Mik
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Post by rjsimmons on Dec 17, 2004 19:23:40 GMT -5
I have not handled real eboshi - so I cannot say how they are made. They are rather stiff to begin with, even the white band. Here is a photo of one of the more unique eboshi I have seen. It is a ceremonial game called kusajishi (deer hunt).
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Post by Michimasa on Dec 20, 2004 9:05:16 GMT -5
Thanks for the pic, very inspiring... I very much like the color and pattern of the costumes, are these rather modern or are they period reproductions ? I think I should look into the block printing technic. Anyone has experience and want to share about this ? Maybe I should start a new thread on block printing... ?
Mik
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Post by rjsimmons on Dec 20, 2004 12:21:29 GMT -5
These are priests and they are wearing quite traditional clothing. The festival that they are participating in happens once a year. Many kyudo-centric games are conducted, including yabusame.
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Dec 20, 2004 21:42:20 GMT -5
Thanks for the pic, very inspiring... I very much like the color and pattern of the costumes, are these rather modern or are they period reproductions ? That's actually a patterned brocade fashionable in the Heian period. There was a Japanese concert of court music in town a couple of months ago and the musicians wore similar costumes, so I got to see them from the fifth row of Zellerbach hall. ;-> Go to www.iz2.or.jp/english/ and click on the "textile gallery" slideshow as it'll give you some detail on what some of the patterns are like. Makiwara
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Post by rjsimmons on Jan 6, 2005 16:30:46 GMT -5
Here are a couple of rather intriguing photos taken by my iaido sensei during the Honolulu 2004 festival. Plenty of eboshi to go around...
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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on Jan 6, 2005 22:28:44 GMT -5
OMG! Who are these guys! Japan? Hawaii?
Can I play ? ! ?
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