Mon question

[Sakurai Takamori]

I'm a tad perplexed over a mon

My good lady wife raised a point with me last night. . .
My device is connected to my Saxon persona...but it includes three gold trefoils (though depicted in the fairly stylized euopean manner)

Is it appropriate to use one of the trefoils enclosed within a circle as a mon? (Colours would be gold/yellow flower and circle) Or is that not done?
Shape is the basic three round lobes with a short serpentine tail at base.


My lady said she didn't want me to lose my device or not use it, but I don't want to use the trefoil as a mon if it's going to end up making me look as if I'm pretending to be Tokugawa, or Oda Nobunaga or someone!

thoughts?
veejay

[Takeda Sanjuichiro]

veejay said:

I'm a tad perplexed over a mon

...but it includes three gold trefoils (though depicted in the fairly stylized euopean manner)...

Clover, or the clover plant is known as Hagi in Japan.
It appears to be used in Mon, and from the shaping of it it was probably used as early as Heian era (namely on oxcarts)

I could not find a single clover depiction quickly.

Is it appropriate to use one of the trefoils enclosed within a circle as a mon? (Colours would be gold/yellow flower and circle) Or is that not done?
Shape is the basic three round lobes with a short serpentine tail at base.

It could be done, but you may be able to modify (artistic licence) your device to look more like a mon without having to then go and re-register it.

My lady said she didn't want me to lose my device or not use it, but I don't want to use the trefoil as a mon if it's going to end up making me look as if I'm pretending to be Tokugawa, or Oda Nobunaga or someone!

Unless you release your device, you will never loose it if it is registered, it is yours forever (and I mean forever, since if you pass on it is still registered to you and will not pass on to your children or "heirs" unless you specify so with a "Heraldic will" through the CoH... check with your local/kingdom heralds)

As far as conflicting the CoH only has 3 Japanese Mon Registered:

Japan:Gyronny of thirty-two gules and argent, a torteau. Important non-SCA flag Imperial Naval Ensign

Japan: Argent, a torteau. Important non-SCA flag

Tokugawa: Dark, three hollyhock leaves in pall inverted tips to centre within and stems conjoined to an annulet light. Important non-SCA môn

Other famous Japanese mon are not registered (protected) though there are some on the comment list of the CoH that would notice it if you tried to do something like pass Oda Nobunaga's Mon...

-Takeda Sanjuichiro