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Post by Noriko on Sept 28, 2005 13:03:05 GMT -5
Re. our discussion on medallion pattern (etc.) on Japanese fabric: I just remembered a website that may be useful. It's intended to provide backgrounds for webbing, but the designs are all Heian-classical. The main page is kariginu.jp/sozai/index.htm . Medallions specifically for kariginu are on kariginu.jp/sozai/sozai2.htm . Ahh! Arigato Gozaimasu! These are great. The author could have used a bit more contrast but really, it's a great site. I saw a variation on what Makiwara-hime called a "plum blossom atom", which I guess is what I'll call it now, lol, but using a different flower. But I guess that the layout and design is standard enough that I can use the one with the plums. Thank you, everyone has really been very helpful with this. I just got my art supplies in the mail so here we go... (: Hopefully, I can find someone with a digital camera to take pictures...
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Sept 28, 2005 20:28:16 GMT -5
Finally got a chance to look at these.
Ah, the information I found WAS correct then. Who gets to tell Saiako? ::)Which is a nice mon, but not one I feel the need to try to adapt
Hey, I think I recognize some of those icons......
Sensei, thank you so much for sorting this for us illiterates.
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Post by AJBryant on Sept 28, 2005 22:28:16 GMT -5
My pleasure.
I'm just sorry I didn't think to do this earlier. I'm working (slowly) on Illustrator-filing those medallions to make B&W masters for stencil purposes. Is there any (ARE there...) that you'd like me to take on first?
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Sept 28, 2005 23:00:41 GMT -5
That would rock.
I just discovered that the poly sheeting I bought to try for stencil work is too thin and too brittle to cut up for the rattan plant stencil I want to cut. It tears and that sucketh majorly.
Back to the art store tomorrow, especially as I promised to do a demo on fabric stencilling at WK Crown on Sunday morning.
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Post by madyaas on Sept 29, 2005 3:49:48 GMT -5
It looks very good. I don;t have my books to double check the translation though, I don't recall "rattan" as being a known element, I think it has a diffrent English plant name assosicated with it. (heck for all I know wisteria is a cousin of rattan) Wisteria are in the bean family, so they're related to things like lespedeza, and azuki, as well as garden peas, and honey locusts. Rattan are palms and they're more closely related to bamboo than they are to wisteria (heck, they're closer to irises even). They're a species of climbing palm, some with long whip like flagella at the tips of the leaves. All parts of the leaves are viciously thorned (sometimes the trunks are too): Daemonorops jenkinsiana: Interesting trivia: Daemonorops means "Evil spirit shrub" and you can see why (Daemon - evil spirit, demon, Rops - shrub) Plectocomia sp. Calamus inermis: Interesting that the translation of the Wisteria mon (if i'm recalling the original link) was given as "rattan". I'm curious about this one though: To me, this looks to be a fan palm leaf. Is this the case? I've seen different styles of the same basic design, some which are more stylized and others which appear to be a feather fan. What is that design?
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Post by Takeda Sanjuichiro on Sept 29, 2005 7:18:26 GMT -5
I'm curious about this one though: I have seen that "charge" listed as a palm before, however it was a meiji era logo IIRC. However it is very close to another stylized version of a feather fan, and I myself categorize it under feather fan. BTW thanks for the skinny on wisteria and rattan. -Takeda
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Post by Ichikawa Masako on Oct 17, 2005 11:09:40 GMT -5
well i broke down and Im stenciling a ko-uchigi, hopefully i can have it done before our event at the end of the month. I'll post some pics soon.
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Oct 17, 2005 13:53:21 GMT -5
Hey look at me, I'm a trend setter!
How the HELL did that happen?
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Post by Ichikawa Masako on Oct 17, 2005 14:52:08 GMT -5
I have coveted the reproduction fabrics for some time now but i know there is NO way i can afford enough for a garment. I had seen yours awhile back on JML, and i decided to break down and give it a whirl. So far im fairly happy with how its turning out.
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Post by Noriko on Oct 17, 2005 15:14:00 GMT -5
You should be proud to be a trendsetter. I wore my painted robe to an event last Saturday and got several complements. Of course, I said I learned the technique over the Internet from you. Thanks for the inspiration. (:
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Oct 17, 2005 17:30:36 GMT -5
You're welcome. I hope you'll get some pictures and share them!
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Post by Ichikawa Masako on Oct 18, 2005 15:59:28 GMT -5
Hey look at me, I'm a trend setter! How the HELL did that happen? S. yup now i have half a dozen designs printed out on dura-lar sheets. Think if it sits still long enough it might get stenciled... hmm my husband better watch out hehe.
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Oct 23, 2005 15:39:21 GMT -5
In case anyone is looking for materials, I actually found 8" x 10" stencil blanks at the Michael's craft chain (a place I usually find frustrating and evil because my art supply needs are kind of, well, arcane). They're made by Plaid under the name "Simply Stencils" and they'll be with wood craft paints and precut stencils. Or you can buy them from the manufacturer: www.plaidonline.com/productSearchResults.asp?cat2ID=8&cat3ID=30They're opaque and made of a fairly sturdy plastic that you can cut with a utility knife. It IS possible to run them through an inkjet printer - you may have to hold it gently in place until the roller grabs on because they're thicker than paper. The bad news is that the ink will smear if you touch it. I'm going to try covering the inky side of the design with tape before cutting and see if that helps. Saionji
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Post by Ichikawa Masako on Oct 24, 2005 9:37:33 GMT -5
the dura-lar sheets come in two types one being wet media that might work on a inkjet, i got the other kind that can be used with a laser printer since i have access to one here at work. Works like a charm.,
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