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Post by calonnihonjin on Feb 27, 2009 11:32:22 GMT -5
Is there a 'standard' side to which the "floppy" part of an eboshi should hang when worn?
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Post by AJBryant on Feb 27, 2009 14:28:39 GMT -5
Well, unless you're a peasant, it won't be "floppy" but they generally fold to the left.
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Post by calonnihonjin on Feb 27, 2009 15:32:28 GMT -5
The ones I had made are the equivilant to 'arming caps' so non floppy would be a problem:)
Thanks for the reply though
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Post by AJBryant on Feb 27, 2009 18:42:52 GMT -5
Ah, THOSE!!! Those don't flop to the side -- they flop to the BACK. You pull them back and flat.  Effingham |
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Post by spearweasel on Mar 4, 2009 13:47:30 GMT -5
Ah, THOSE!!! Those don't flop to the side -- they flop to the BACK. You pull them back and flat. Effingham I'm going to make an eboshi this week. As a "samurai", I assume I want an Ori Eboshi... is that the correct term? A standard eboshi, folded to the left to make a sort of little triangle? |
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Post by solveig on Mar 5, 2009 22:23:05 GMT -5
Noble Cousin! Greetings from Solveig! I'm going to make an eboshi this week. As a "samurai", I assume I want an Ori Eboshi... is that the correct term? A standard eboshi, folded to the left to make a sort of little triangle? Believe it or not, it's called a "samurai eboshi". |
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Post by spearweasel on Mar 6, 2009 10:30:44 GMT -5
Noble Cousin! Greetings from Solveig! I'm going to make an eboshi this week. As a "samurai", I assume I want an Ori Eboshi... is that the correct term? A standard eboshi, folded to the left to make a sort of little triangle? Believe it or not, it's called a "samurai eboshi". Oh, well ok, that's unusually straightforward. I'm having trouble finding a picture of something that is unequivocably a samurai eboshi. I see directions for making what I assume are tate eboshi online at various places. Do I just fold it over to the left to make a samurai eboshi? |
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Mar 6, 2009 11:42:33 GMT -5
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Post by spearweasel on Mar 6, 2009 14:48:10 GMT -5
Gotcha, thanks. So I assume I want a fabric that will hold a crease? There is a specific fabric/technique, but the name escapes me. As always, I apologize for the 1000th asking of this very same question. I found this page while hunting my own answers: www.ee0r.com/proj/eboshi.html |
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Mar 6, 2009 15:00:09 GMT -5
Gotcha, thanks. So I assume I want a fabric that will hold a crease? There is a specific fabric/technique, but the name escapes me. Natural fibers are your friend. You're going to want something that will not slip off your head and something that breathes a bit, particularly if it's going to do any duty under a helmet. Cotton or linen will do in this case, and a can of Niagara spray starch (check the laundry detergent section at the store for it) and a hot iron are great for adding crispness and creases. "Spike'"s tate-eboshi is made of ordinary mid-weight linen, well starched. |
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Post by Please Delete on Mar 6, 2009 20:31:56 GMT -5
If you are going to wear it under a helmet, definitely go with natural fibres. However, if you want one that keeps its shape, consider paper (natural fibres, but not cloth), or buckram, which is stiffened, so will hold its shape. The lose weave of buckram definitely lets it breathe. Types of eboshi: Tate-eboshi--this is one that is standing up (tate). This is the basic shape of just about all eboshi, and is very easy to make. A dimple in the front helps it to stand better, and a small bit of elastic in the back, or perhaps some hidden combs, will help it to stand off the back of your head, unless you have a good topknot.  Hiki-tate-eboshi--The 'pulled' standing eboshi, which is also the one worn under most helmets. It often has the characteristic white cords around the bottom that tie in the back to keep it on.  Samurai-eboshi--A type of "ori-eboshi" ("ori" means to fold, as in "origami"). This is common on the heads of samurai of many different ranks. Here is an example:  Here's a link on how to make and fold one with paper: members.jcom.home.ne.jp/pehota/fsm02/samuraieboshi/samuraieboshi.htmKaze-ori-eboshi--"Wind-blown eboshi" are another ori-eboshi. This one is more simple:  Ack! Losing battery and must go to a museum. I'll try to post more, but feel free to take a look here: www.flickr.com/photos/tatsushu/sets/72157613088525444/The SCA-JML files should show you how to fold them, etc. -Ii |
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Post by solveig on Mar 6, 2009 21:53:52 GMT -5
Noble Cousin! Greetings from Solveig! Here are several kinds of eboshi. The hat on the extreme right is a samurai eboshi.  Here is an illustration of samurai eboshi Here is an interesting web page about kanmuri and eboshi: www.kariginu.jp/kikata/2-2.htmHere is a web page including a variety of hats, shoes, shaku, fans, and what naught: www.ootsuki-shozokuten.com/men01/108.htmlThis drawing illustrates the parts of of a samurai eboshi  |
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Post by Takeda Sanjuichiro on Mar 12, 2009 9:07:13 GMT -5
I have found that buckram and crinoline work well. Both should be easy to find at your local fabric store. The buckram is stiffer and has a coarser weave, the crinoline more smooth, much like many of the silk weaves used in japan, but not as stiff. I buy it in white, cut and sew it to shape, fold, spindle and mutilate to desired shape and then iron the heck out of it, spray starch if needed. In order to preserve the shape and color it, I then spray-paint it black This makes them very stiff, gives and acceptable appearance (I use a gloss or semi-gloss paint in very light coats, so the weave is not filled in) and also has the bonus of making them water resistant. One thing... they cannot be ironed again after painting. Nice thing is $20 gives you enough materials to make several. -Takeda |
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Post by spearweasel on Mar 12, 2009 20:55:53 GMT -5
never mind - I figured it out. ;D
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Post by Kôriki Ryuushirô Hiroshige on Mar 23, 2009 7:06:50 GMT -5
Ok, going to keep this one going.
This weekend I made a Hiki-tate-eboshi. How do you keep it standing up straight? Do I just starch the stuffings out it?
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