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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on May 17, 2011 0:36:03 GMT -5
When was pole fishing introduced? Any idea? I have the sense that the Chinese were at it for a while, but don't really know.
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Post by Please Delete on May 17, 2011 19:01:35 GMT -5
Not sure, exactly, but I get the impression it goes back to at least neolithic, though I could be wrong. Due to the nature of rods, I don't know how many would have survived. Still, I think it plausible that the Japanese have had them for their entire history.
-Ii
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Post by solveig on May 17, 2011 23:21:25 GMT -5
Noble Cousins!
Greetings from Solveig! As I recall, there are neolithic fishing hooks in Japan.
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Post by Please Delete on May 18, 2011 4:21:00 GMT -5
The problem is that neolithic hook is not the same as a neolithic pole. Many people still fish with hook and line, but no pole (and the "pole" for halibut fishing is really more of a winch held away from the boat). I was noticing that on an Aztec design, which made me revise my initial response.
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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on May 20, 2011 11:46:46 GMT -5
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fishing_reel^ Birrell (1993), 185. ^ Hucker (1975), 206. ^ Ronan (1994), 41. ^ Temple (1986), 88. ^ a b c d e f Needham (1986), Volume 4, Part 2, 100 & PLATE CXLVII.
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Post by glenn on Jan 17, 2017 22:44:40 GMT -5
Fishing with a pole need not involve a reel, and predates reels significantly. Many times it's just a line tied to the end of the pole, or sometimes through a fairlead at the pole's tip leading down to the handle where you can grab it with the off hand to pull. A modern version are the Bonita and Yellowfin tuna fisheries using fixed lines on pole with barbless hooks. Once hooked, the fish are yanked over the shoulder, and frequently come off the hook on the boat behind the fisherman. It takes strength, endurance and timing. Sometimes as many as three men are required to boat a Yellowfin.
- Halfdan Ragnarsson, Sailor
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Post by momoyama on Jan 21, 2017 3:28:51 GMT -5
I found an Edo or older era bronze fishhook, it's about 5-7 cm in length, probably for carp, probably unchanged for most of history i.imgur.com/Eh6y6cu.jpg
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Post by solveig on Feb 15, 2017 13:32:01 GMT -5
As I recall, fishhooks predate metal in Japan. So, you might be able to find similarly shaped fishhooks made out of bone or a similar substance. I would not call that "unchanged". Regardless, making your own fishhooks could be an awesome A&S project.
While fishing reels are useful devices, they are not at all necessary for pole fishing. There are at least four traditional fishing methods worldwide: pole fishing, net fishing, spear fishing, and fish traps. I believe that all of these have been around since neolithic times.
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Post by Bun'ami on Mar 28, 2017 10:31:42 GMT -5
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