Saionji Shonagon
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Feb 23, 2012 22:39:52 GMT -5
[ Haha, costume porn, I like that! I've actually downloaded Kagemusha, but haven't had the chance to watch it yet, as I was catching up on Tenchijin and Furin Kazan (and Ten to Chi To which I gave up on halfway through, disguisted with the scope of their 'creative licence'  ). Have you seen them? I think the costume porn is abundant as a rule in the Taiga Doramas as well, right?  I've only seen bits of them. The local channel that shows them tends to do so on odd Saturday nights - and my cable carrier recently removed the NHK America channel on me.  |
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Post by echigonoryu on Feb 23, 2012 23:02:22 GMT -5
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Saionji Shonagon
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Feb 23, 2012 23:19:23 GMT -5
Furin Kazan's brilliant, if you ignore the crying samurai, which seem to be all over the place, lol!! is heavily populated by weeping samurai. I think I've seen bits of Tenchijin The last one I managed to catch bits of was Atsu-hime, IIRC. |
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Post by solveig on Feb 24, 2012 14:51:45 GMT -5
Noble Cousin! Greetings from Solveig! Does it have any information on things like shaving as well? I'm trying to work out if they used any form of shaving cream back then - and if anyone on here knows anything about that topic, I'll be more than grateful if you share the knowledge All those little details keep popping up as I go and bug me immensely until I've found the answers. If I recall correctly, heads were shaved and beards were plucked. I don't know about shaving cream, but I kind of doubt it. We have emaki of people having their heads shaved, and I don't recall seeing anything resembling shaving cream being used. |
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Post by echigonoryu on Feb 24, 2012 19:15:58 GMT -5
Noble Cousin! Greetings from Solveig! If I recall correctly, heads were shaved and beards were plucked. I don't know about shaving cream, but I kind of doubt it. We have emaki of people having their heads shaved, and I don't recall seeing anything resembling shaving cream being used.  ?  Ouch!! Really?? I know they were tough but that's on an entirely different level of toughness! *goes off to try and find more info* Thanks ever so much for the reply, as always it's invaluable for me! My eternal gratitude to Solveig-sama and Saionji-sama! Ot should that probably be -sensei? |
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Feb 25, 2012 15:01:11 GMT -5
If I recall correctly, heads were shaved and beards were plucked. I don't know about shaving cream, but I kind of doubt it. We have emaki of people having their heads shaved, and I don't recall seeing anything resembling shaving cream being used. Wet is generally more important than what the hair/skin is wet with. There's a scene at the beginning of Seven Samurai in which Takashi Shimura's character impersonates a monk to rescue a kidnapped child, and simply wets his head with water from the river while someone shaves his scalp for him. |
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Post by echigonoryu on Feb 28, 2012 8:32:46 GMT -5
Wet is generally more important than what the hair/skin is wet with. There's a scene at the beginning of Seven Samurai in which Takashi Shimura's character impersonates a monk to rescue a kidnapped child, and simply wets his head with water from the river while someone shaves his scalp for him. Thank you Do you know of any sources at all where I could find more about the plucking of the beards? Oh, and what would they use for shaving? A simple knife, or something specifically designed for that purpose? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2012 10:53:02 GMT -5
Oh, and what would they use for shaving? A simple knife, or something specifically designed for that purpose? Not sure how far back they go historically, but there are definitely Japanese straight razors, typically called kamisori (actually, all razors are called kamisori). This article on kamisori says they go back about 800 years, which puts them firmly in mid-period, but he supplies no references. Perhaps the author has more hidden somewhere in the archives of his blog. |
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Post by echigonoryu on Feb 28, 2012 22:41:03 GMT -5
Not sure how far back they go historically, but there are definitely Japanese straight razors, typically called kamisori (actually, all razors are called kamisori). This article on kamisori says they go back about 800 years, which puts them firmly in mid-period, but he supplies no references. Perhaps the author has more hidden somewhere in the archives of his blog. Thanks for that! I never would have thought that watching a guy shave could be fascinating! ;D According to the first link, samurai shaved their beards, do you know anything about whether the choice between shaving and plucking would have been personal, or did they start off plucking them and then at some point moved on to using the kamisori? |
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Post by yumehime on Nov 4, 2013 14:23:39 GMT -5
my guess would be plucking was the norm till blades became more refined.
there is also threading, still used in china, that may have come with the rest of imported culture.
and i have used brown rice flour as well as ground adzuki beans in a hair experiment and found both to be WAY more effective at removing oil than i need. the saponins in adzuki are still used in soap for acne prone skin. in fact, you can spend insane amounts of money on spa treatments that amount to rice bran and ground adzuki beans that may get flowers tossed in for good measure, or you can make your own.
the long hair forum had a thread that used to have links to pictures, but one comment mentions a drama that demonstrates a lady in waiting using heat to not only scent hair, but also to help it dry.
there is also a long standing love of natural hot springs in japan, and some have acidic water making them natural chemical exfoliates.
and the bird poo. who thinks "hey i know, lets use bird poo to wash our faces!"?
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). Have you seen them? I think the costume porn is abundant as a rule in the Taiga Doramas as well, right? 
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Ouch!! Really?? I know they were tough but that's on an entirely different level of toughness! *goes off to try and find more info* Thanks ever so much for the reply, as always it's invaluable for me! My eternal gratitude to Solveig-sama and Saionji-sama! Ot should that probably be -sensei?