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Post by Phenix on Aug 16, 2013 11:44:47 GMT -5
Hi, I'm Phenix and I'm on a quest to making a suit of Yoroi base on "The Last Samurai" for my friend (I'm originated from Thailand ,So forgive my lack of gramma.) and when I look into the detail of the Do part I've got a lot of curiosity.   -How to make that part ,the "Iyo zane?" how do they hold together? -I've read from www.sengokudaimyo.com/katchu/katchu.html but I don't quite understand -Do I have alternative for making this kind of Do? -I want to make it from leather. Please Help Thanks |
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Post by Please Delete on Aug 16, 2013 17:45:35 GMT -5
Welcome, Lord Phenix! Good to see you on the boards.  Give my best to everyone in Golden Playne! If you do it out of leather, use the very thick leather or LOTS of lacquer. The Iyozane are usually the same height as regular "SANE", but longer. It can either be an entire row, or it can be large plates that overlap, which is what I think they are doing here. Does that make sense? -Ii |
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Post by Phenix on Aug 17, 2013 1:36:25 GMT -5
Thanks Ii-dono we missed you a lot  - So what they did id buit the board of Iyo zane first then glue what it seem to be thin leather on to it? or they using lacquer as a glue? and then poke a hole from underneath ,shape the board and then lacquer it again before lacing together into a suit of do? |
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Post by Please Delete on Aug 17, 2013 11:08:21 GMT -5
I believe what you want to do is build a board of iyozane, and lace them together at the base, as with regular kozane. Lacing them will keep them stiff--you can then lacquer that part if you want to keep it solid. If you add lacquer, you will want it shaped then.
BTW, in the Japanese museums, all of the armors are done hanging, so you start at the top and work your way down, and it keeps all of the boards in place with the lacing.
-Ii
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Post by Phenix on Aug 17, 2013 13:11:41 GMT -5
Start from the top got it. Thank a lot!
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Post by worldantiques on Aug 18, 2013 14:19:57 GMT -5
-How to make that part ,the "Iyo zane?" how do they hold together? -I've read from www.sengokudaimyo.com/katchu/katchu.html but I don't quite understand -Do I have alternative for making this kind of Do? -I want to make it from leather. Please Help Thanks Hello, I believe that the armor you show is kiritsuke iyozane which is not the same as true iyozane. Kiritsuke iyozane (false iyozane) are long strips of metal that are shaped to look like true iyozane scales, the strips are lacquered and laced together to form an armor. True iyozane are individual small rectangular scales that are lacquered and laced together into strips, these strips are laced together to form an armor, quite a bit more work. Hosokawa clan, hon iyozane maru dou.    |
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Post by worldantiques on Aug 18, 2013 14:24:30 GMT -5
Hosokawa clan etchu zunari kabuto, hon iyozane maru dou gusoku.  |
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Post by Phenix on Aug 21, 2013 7:59:22 GMT -5
Not quite what I expect ,maybe I should make Hon Kozane....  |
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Post by nismos14270r on Aug 21, 2013 11:08:15 GMT -5
This is my take on making iyozane.    I made the board with a strip of thick steel behind the scales for strength. Then I used super glue to stretch a thin piece of pig skin over the whole board. The 3rd picture is a test piece I made years ago. I never sanded it smooth and put more layers of paint and sealer. But, you can see the effect. If I were making one now. I'd make the boards like I have shown, then figure out how to want to attach the rows together, drill those holes. Finally cover each board in a super thin leather split, maybe something like This.I purchased something similar to what I linked. Its paper thin but fairly strong, and I think I could get it smooth and look just like the pictures with a little practice. Also, the 3rd picture, the pig leather was 4-5 oz thick. Compare that detail to what could be achieved with a leather half as thick. |
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Post by Phenix on Aug 21, 2013 12:49:49 GMT -5
That's a nice one! Thanks for your information.
The Iyo-zane is somehow very difficult ,making the boards isn't problem but I struggle when I gonna make holes for lacing Odoshi.
also it require a lot of lacquer ,This isn't good for my health.
I'm going to making some Hon-Kozane boards.
I got a question.
What is the good medium for Shiki?
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Post by Phenix on Sept 2, 2013 13:11:40 GMT -5
Now marking and cutting Kozane   |
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Post by Phenix on Sept 9, 2013 5:03:56 GMT -5
On the second day of Kabuto. I might do it wrong    |
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Post by AJBryant on Sept 10, 2013 10:41:57 GMT -5
You're missing the wrapping plate on the kabuto -- the one that ties everything together. The visor should attach to that. See this:  |
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Post by Phenix on Oct 10, 2013 10:30:25 GMT -5
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Post by magnus on Oct 28, 2013 14:10:49 GMT -5
Brilliant!
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Give my best to everyone in Golden Playne!
