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Post by perotin on Aug 17, 2017 18:03:21 GMT -5
Hey guys.Everyone knows this, right?... front - www.sengokudaimyo.com/katchu/graphics/patterns/NewDoFrPattern.PDFback - www.sengokudaimyo.com/katchu/graphics/patterns/NewDoRPattern.PDFI just want to clarify for myself, because of language barrier, IF the overlap which is on every piece on the left, IF IS or IS NOT on both sides of the every piece, or only at the left. Because A) if this overlap is only on the left, then after I unfold the pattern for some piece, then only the left side of this piece will it be a little bit longer. Am I right? OR B) its on the left and also on the right, so after I unfold the piece, it has same length on both sides. And I am also not surw if the overlap is only for front pieces or also for back pieces... I am really confused. I am newbie, just stared... spared like a whole day to make some testing armor from the cardboard...  Thank you for any help. And another question... Is this overlap really necessary? I saw some diy armors where rhe overlap is missing and it looks OK, but I am not sure about tradition and samurai praxis.
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Post by perotin on Aug 18, 2017 3:56:23 GMT -5
Another thing. How do I connect front and back parts on the left side? I mean I am going to do regular holes for connections between each pieces, but I dont know if I should do some extra holes at the left side or should I use these regular to knot back and front panels?  I dont know... |
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Post by Please Delete on Aug 19, 2017 20:22:18 GMT -5
If you are doing ryo-awase, where both the front and back are separate, you'll want overlap on both sides. If it is hinged, however, then you should only need to have the overlap on the right side.
The left side is typically connected with a hinge (think a piano hinge). The right side should just have the border cord, and then it will take some holes on both the back and front for the cords that hold it closed.
-Ii
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Post by perotin on Aug 22, 2017 2:55:52 GMT -5
1) I am now wondering how should I connect front and back panel together (not the right side, where is overlap, but the left side). I thought about hinge, but I am not sure how to do that. OR if I should connect panels with some lacing. There will be some holes for vertical connection of every piece. Can I use these holes also for connection of front and back? I am not sure how.
2) I also tried to overlap each piece like its laced together and I am little bit concerned about that there is on the left and on the right some parts which exceeds. I dont know if this will dissapear after I shape each piece with a heat gun
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Post by nismos14270r on Aug 22, 2017 9:19:05 GMT -5
When in doubt, look at pictures of the originals. I stare endlessly at photographs before, during, and after I make something. There are many ways to connect the halves and close the dou. I think you are making an okegawa do. Here are some that I think should answer your questions:   The okegawa only has one overlap, so on your pattern only leave that extra inch on the left. The right side has any sort of hinge you'd like, and you have to make new holes for that hinge. edit: Somehow deleted the correct picture I made, and also the source... Anyways, here is an awful example of what your pattern should look like.  |
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Post by perotin on Aug 22, 2017 13:54:37 GMT -5
When in doubt, look at pictures of the originals. I stare endlessly at photographs before, during, and after I make something. There are many ways to connect the halves and close the dou. I think you are making an okegawa do. Here are some that I think should answer your questions: The okegawa only has one overlap, so on your pattern only leave that extra inch on the left. The right side has any sort of hinge you'd like, and you have to make new holes for that hinge. edit: Somehow deleted the correct picture I made, and also the source... Anyways, here is an awful example of what your pattern should look like. Thanks a lot. This really helped me  |
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Post by perotin on Sept 8, 2017 1:32:58 GMT -5
Another question: how thick should be these armor parts? I made some from 3mm sintra and it seems too thick
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Post by Kozure Okami on Sept 8, 2017 3:01:41 GMT -5
I don't know anything about sintra, but when you say too thick, do you mean it looks like it is, or is it just hard to shape it?
In antique armour, you would have something like 0.6mm of iron and then many layers of urushi lacquer. I can't say how thick that was in the end, but I'd suggest you give 2mm a try.
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Post by perotin on Sept 9, 2017 1:20:42 GMT -5
I mean it just looks like too thick, but its easy to shape actually with a heatgun.
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Post by Kozure Okami on Sept 11, 2017 3:18:03 GMT -5
Well, if you're building the suit for combat practice or stuff like that, then it will most likely be better to stick with 3mm  |
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I dont know...
