Hiroyuki
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Post by Hiroyuki on Feb 28, 2005 15:49:57 GMT -5
How would one make a tetsubo of "normal" proportions list legal for the sca?
If it were 4-4 1/2' long, how thick would the striking end be?
How about the handle? Would you have to mark the striking end? Other than the "super ball" method mentioned in the earlier tetsubo post, how else could you SAFELY imitate the studs?
Again I have become Mr. question-man... but I would like to utilize one of these as my primary weapon when I get myself established within the SCA... Thanks again!
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Post by OgamiBusho on Feb 28, 2005 16:12:23 GMT -5
As far as the SCA is concerned, a tetsubo is just another polearm and falls within all of the weight/ size regulations of the Society and of your particular kingdom. Check with your local marshal if you're not sure.
A good way to make the 'bumps' is to stack 1 1/2" diameter discs of closed-cell foam and tape them together (like a thrusting point) and then tape the assembly to your polearm.
Many, many years ago a king of the East made a club like this for fighting. When he went on to the field with it for the first time, someone yelled "The king has a great knobbly club!" From across the field someone loudly replied, "God save the queen!"
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Post by rjsimmons on Feb 28, 2005 16:14:36 GMT -5
How would one make a tetsubo of "normal" proportions list legal for the sca? If it were 4-4 1/2' long, how thick would the striking end be? 1-1/4" How about the handle? Would you have to mark the striking end? Other than the "super ball" method mentioned in the earlier tetsubo post, how else could you SAFELY imitate the studs? Handle can be any thickness. The Marshalate rules are for striking edge, but I would recommend 1-1/4". The studs can be reproduced with any material that allows progressive give and would not impede the actual striking surface. The superball method seems the best compromise. Again I have become Mr. question-man... but I would like to utilize one of these as my primary weapon when I get myself established within the SCA... Thanks again! Remember to take pictures and show them on the board... |
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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on Feb 28, 2005 16:57:51 GMT -5
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Hiroyuki
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Post by Hiroyuki on Feb 28, 2005 17:55:12 GMT -5
much thanks to all off you. I shall search through the outlands polearm rules and start on some planning for this project. Now I can start to see why you guys are always busy planning your next thing, this is fun!
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Post by Hiroyuki on Feb 28, 2005 20:33:29 GMT -5
quoted from the heavy weapons handbook for the society...
"...Mass weapons (single-handed): Maces, axes, war hammers, or other weapons
which are designed primarily to crush or punch holes (on account of the
weight of the real weapons), rather than primarily to cut (on account of sharp
edges on the real weapon). Maximum length for single-handed mass weapons
is 48 inches (122 cm). Maximum weight is 5 lbs. (2.28 kg)..."
would that mean that a tetsubo at or under 4 ft (46 inches) would be a mass weapon and not a pole arm? Thus allowing one to use another weapon in his off hand?
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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on Mar 1, 2005 16:07:47 GMT -5
A 4' and under testubo would be a single-handed mace and should be constructed under those rules. A tetsubo of greater than 4' would be a polearm and should be constructed under those rules. You could probably get the local marshal to pass a 40" tetsubo constructed under pole arm rules. There is no minimum length on pole arms.
As a rule of thumb, the marshals are going to look at three things: excessive weight? sufficient give? would both the owner and the marshall be willing to be hit by it?
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Post by Hiroyuki on Mar 1, 2005 16:22:43 GMT -5
okay, makes sense...  would the user of such a polearm still allowed to be otherwise armed? As in using a a katana,wakizashi...etc... in his off hand, or would such be considered a two handed weapon? |
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Post by raito on Mar 1, 2005 16:25:30 GMT -5
... And there's really no prohibition on using 2 handed weapons single handed (at least up here  ). It's more a matter of what rules to inspect it under. Sword and spear would be impossible if one wasn't able to use the spear single-handedly. |
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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on Mar 1, 2005 16:26:12 GMT -5
Spearmen have been known to hold other weapons while holding a spear. Sometimes spears are used as off hand weapons. There is no restriction that states pole weapons must be used with two hands.
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Post by Hiroyuki on Mar 1, 2005 16:34:04 GMT -5
May the great bird of happiness explode in your presence! ;D Seriously though, thanks to all of you, now to continue planning... |
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Post by raito on Mar 7, 2005 12:45:47 GMT -5
Reading the recently-ratified combat rules specific to Northshield, I find that the tetsubo is not legal here  Specifically: Section 2.2 (4) (formatting mine, sort of) 4) Prohibited Weapons • Pike-mauls, (a great weapon with omnidirectional striking surface) • Thrusting shields • Flail-style weapons It does show a rather incredible ignorance by the KEM of what a pike-maul actually is, and why it was originally prohibited. |
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Mar 28, 2005 13:39:46 GMT -5
Somebody posted a question to one of my lists about making a list-legal the "Maciejowski War Club." When I actually saw the thing, I thought it looked very like a tetsubo:  It's at the very leftmost edge of the picture. I have taken the liberty of sending the gentleman a link to this discussion. M. |
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). It's more a matter of what rules to inspect it under.
