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Post by Michimasa on Oct 27, 2004 19:15:21 GMT -5
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Post by rjsimmons on Oct 27, 2004 22:03:37 GMT -5
Five panels.
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Post by Michimasa on Oct 28, 2004 12:29:25 GMT -5
Thanks,
Any chance of getting the pattern of your removable shikoro ??
Mik
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Post by rjsimmons on Oct 28, 2004 14:22:47 GMT -5
Thanks, Any chance of getting the pattern of your removable shikoro ?? Mik I'd have to make one, so it'll be a while. |
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Post by AJBryant on Oct 28, 2004 20:56:03 GMT -5
Six. You virtually never find odd-numbered helmets in sengoku styles. They overlap to the back, so there has to be one underlapping plate in the center back.
Tony
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Post by rjsimmons on Oct 29, 2004 6:10:58 GMT -5
Tony,
While I agree with the general rule, the photo in question lead me to indicate 5 panels. If there is a 6th panel, it is nowhere near the exposed size of the other 5.
rj
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Post by Michimasa on Oct 29, 2004 8:05:17 GMT -5
You know what ? I save the pic on local drive, used a software to lighten it so to have better contrast for the line between panel, magnify (zoom in) and I found the missing line that shows it definetly have six panels ....
Now the question that remain to me, are the six panel equals ? I can't say from the picture....
Thanks to both of you!
Mik
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Post by AJBryant on Oct 29, 2004 13:47:04 GMT -5
I know it may look like five, but that would result in a messy meeting of plates in the back. Beside that, of course, is that I know the specific helmet in question, and it definitely has six.  Mik, it's tough to say about the size of the helm plates; it can go either way. Usually what you find is that they were sized so that the *exposed* surface is identical in width -- which means that the rear one would be wider than the others, because there's an underlap on both sides, and the front is narrowest as it's exposed for its full length. Just as often, though, it could be that they were all cut to roughly the same measurements and the front looks wider therefore, and the back is apparently narrower. This latter is the case here -- the plates are all the same measurement. Tony |
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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on Oct 29, 2004 17:37:52 GMT -5
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Post by Michimasa on Nov 1, 2004 13:42:40 GMT -5
Ok. Now since I will use leather to make these panels (over the existing helm) I wonder how I will join them, stitch or rivets ? I don't think glue would be enough even if I make the ovelap an inch or so.
Thanks, these provide me with other views that should be usefull.
Mik
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Post by rjsimmons on Nov 1, 2004 14:17:32 GMT -5
I know it may look like five, but that would result in a messy meeting of plates in the back. Beside that, of course, is that I know the specific helmet in question, and it definitely has six. Tony And I envy your fingers... There were some odd looking 6 plated helms at Iwakuni castle, but they would have taken serious offense to me breaking the glass to get to them... |
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