Momonari from Bascinet

[Daijiro]

Konbanwa,
Can anyone tell me the period of such a helmet as:



Takamatsu no Daijiro Muneaki

[AJBryant]

Looks Edo, but it's not out of place for a late 16th century impression.


Tony

[Daijiro]

Is there anything similar to this in the 14th Century? Here is my problem. I have a high peak bascinet that I love, but, if it will not
work as a kabuto in my 14th century kit I would like to sell it and make a new kabuto. If it will work, I will just mod it as needed. If
images of my Bascinet are needed just let me know.

[Otagiri Tatsuzou]

I followed the linked image to discover ... its a leather helmet. Cool.

I am pretty sure that the momonari helmets do not appear until after the Europeans do. It that's true, then you don't get it any earlier than sixteenth century. Sorry.

[Daijiro]

So am I looking more toward the 8, 16, 32 plate variety kabuto then?

[Otagiri Tatsuzou]

For fourteenth century, definately multi-plate bowls. I think exposed rivets would be the norm for pre-sixteenth century kabuto, but hidden rivets are probably not unheard of.

For something different:
Tenugui-kabuto came in during the fifteenth century?
www.picure.l.u-tokyo.ac.jp/arc/stibbert/400/0028.jpg

And another type in the fifteenth century, something like this one, but more rounded, whose name escapes me:
www.picure.l.u-tokyo.ac.jp/arc/stibbert/400/0068.jpg

Both of these other helm types I am thinking of are in Bottomley's book Arms and Armour of the Samurai but I am on the road and do not have that book with me.

[AJBryant]

Is there anything similar to this in the 14th Century?

Not a chance, sorry. In the 1300s, you're talking multiplates and domed rivets.

The update of the armour manual (which I am working on now) has all sorts of new material, including o-yoroi plans and info on these earlier helmets.


Tony

[Daijiro]

Domo guys. I will probably be asking alot of questions