kenshiro
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Post by kenshiro on May 24, 2005 11:40:06 GMT -5
I meat a fellow at the event I went to this weekend who does Japanese persona..
He was telling me about how the Japanese would use European armour incorporated in to thier suits.. I knew enough from Effingham's site to carry on a decent conversation.. He mentioned that he saw a back point bascinet that had been turned around, had the face covered and then had the back of the helm cut away to form the face...
I was curious if anyone else had seen this as well...
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AJBryant
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Post by AJBryant on May 24, 2005 13:29:55 GMT -5
Given that bascinets had been out of use in Europe for almost 150 years, it's extremely unlikely.
It sounds to me like he was misinterpreting something.
Effingham
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Post by Nobuhide on May 24, 2005 14:32:42 GMT -5
Given that bascinets had been out of use in Europe for almost 150 years, it's extremely unlikely. It sounds to me like he was misinterpreting something. Effingham or was just using aesthetic similarities in armor as an excuse to BS his way into sounding like he knew what he was talking about. |
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AJBryant
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Post by AJBryant on May 24, 2005 18:14:46 GMT -5
I've never seen that happen before.  Okay, I have. Lots. Too often. Oy. Effingham |
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Post by Kitadatedenka on May 24, 2005 22:16:37 GMT -5
Well, yes, I've seen a backward bascinet kabuto in the SCA. It turned out to be a rather funky momonari. BUt it was built from the ground up for that purpose. It just happened that that pattern, turned artound, gave the desired shape.
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kenshiro
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Post by kenshiro on May 25, 2005 9:01:13 GMT -5
Oh okay, well thanks for the help ya'll ...
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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on May 25, 2005 10:34:21 GMT -5
I think your friend has confused the cabasset with a bascinet.  Bascinet  Cabasset  Namban (foreign) armour using a cabasset. This does match your friends general comment that some Japanese armours incoporated Spanish pieces (just not the bascinet).  Momonari Kabuto - possibly influenced by Spanish helms. |
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kenshiro
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Post by kenshiro on May 25, 2005 13:11:48 GMT -5
That was probably it.. Since this guys doesnt strike me as a braggart.. Thanks for the help ya'll !!
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