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Post by Sakurai Takamori on Jun 23, 2005 16:11:25 GMT -5
Things were going so well. . . . Have the plates for mogami do, sode, kusazuri, cut and shaped and punched ready to lace. Have toggles and cord for the attachments, have two kote made with cord closures attached and frogs to link with sode..... And then comes. . . .the sugake odoshi. Given my short timelines (wanting to get this done by war camp (which starts tomorrow evening) I didn't order any braid from any of the sources on this list or Eff's site because I didn't think it would arrive in time (mistake number 1) So I figured, OK, red hockey laces...no problem. (mistake number 2) no one in my neck of the woods sells red lacing. OK, white laces and I'll dye them red. (mistake number 3.. . .shoulda gone with white lacing on black plates) Did the dye job this morning as per instructions. Looked a lovely blood red when they were done. . . .until I dried them (mistake number 4 ...the fatal one) Am now facing the prospect of proudly showing off my first ever do resplendent in . . . . pink sugake odoshi!!!!! As I said, the horror is mounting......am taking a break before I start to weep. veejay p.s. I will of course send in pictures of the new pretty in pink samurai....... Then after war camp I will cut it all off, order the right colour from the right place and start again. One day (maybe) I'll look back on all this and laaaauuggh!
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Post by Arima Jinsuke on Jun 23, 2005 17:41:18 GMT -5
One day (maybe) I'll look back on all this and laaaauuggh! You will. I assure you, you will. Wear the armor with pride. Remember, YOU did the work, and its only modern sensibilities that equate pink with any sort of "unmanliness." I doubt the samurai had any such prejudice. ;D Or, just tell people its really old, and the lacing has faded. You were going for the authentic, antique look.
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Jun 23, 2005 17:53:57 GMT -5
Heck, yeah! Japanese men wore clothes decorated with flowers. And butterflies. Big honkin' butterflies, fergoodnessake!
Anyone whose ever done laundry without sorting the whites and colors and ended up with pink sweat socks can tell you that red dyes are notoriously fugitive. Reds run. Reds fade. True now, true in period.
It's fixable if you decide to want to. In the meantime, you have armor to fight in. Take many heads and nobody'll remember the pink laces. ;->
M.
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Post by Takeda Sanjuichiro on Jun 23, 2005 20:47:46 GMT -5
...Heck, yeah! Japanese men wore clothes decorated with flowers. And butterflies. Big honkin' butterflies, fergoodnessake! .....Take many heads and nobody'll remember the pink laces... Yup! no one teases me about my pink/purple floral print hakama anymore. Also when I wear the "effeminite colors" seems to be when I have the most women wanting to come up an hug me... And I certainly am not compaining.
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Post by Kitadatedenka on Jun 24, 2005 10:14:53 GMT -5
It ain't pink.
It's rose.
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Post by Sakurai Takamori on Jun 24, 2005 10:29:57 GMT -5
Well after some liquid refreshment, a good night's sleep, the kind comments of the list and a hefty extra dose of scarlet dye, the odoshi question is far less painful....
THe more I thought about it, the less of a problem it became. . . .also finding a lovely floral print fabric and some upholstry weight fabric with a simple dragonfly embroidery made me far more amenable to the pink (rose, that is.). . .not that I wouldn't take the heads of my largely viking and scots shire-mates who will no doubt make off-colour comments.
arigato
veejay
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Post by Yvarg on Jun 24, 2005 23:45:37 GMT -5
ya know, this happened to me too when i dyed some karate pants and a shirt red. was it the dye from vons? because you have to dye it twice to get a red. ticked me off too.
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Jun 26, 2005 19:32:42 GMT -5
On dyeing, you really, REALLY need to read the instructions - and be sure that you buy a dye that is formulated to work on the material you want to color. Cotton, linen and rayon are vegetable fibers. Wool and silk are animal fibers. Darker, more saturated colors generally may require a larger quantity of dye. Some dyes need a mordant to make them set propertly (e.g., vinegar, potash, etc.). www.dharmatrading.com carries a variety of dyes for all kinds of applications and their pages are very good about describing the products, any mordants required, etc. They also carry a product called Synthrapol which is very good for washing excess dye out of your newly dyed item so it doesn't run all over anything the next time you need to wash it. M.
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Post by AJBryant on Jun 27, 2005 16:18:38 GMT -5
Another thing.
Chances are, you're using a synthetic, like polyester, nylon, or polypropelyne. None of those take dye -- you can't DYE plastic, you have to paint it.
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