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Post by Lady Kimiko on Jul 24, 2011 21:23:22 GMT -5
The early cult followers of Okuni were the undesirables and outcasts of society. Some were low ranking 'river women', that being prostitutes who were basically homeless living along the main river in Kyoto. Women were barred from kabuki post period - several times in fact. The first few attempts failed, but later were more effective.
In early 'kabuki' women were often in mens roles, and men in womens roles. Again, I could rave about this but I really dont want to derail my own project thread.
As for the nagoya - I'll see if I can find info. The only thing I have read so far is the the more free spirited and artistic community embraced them because they were the first most influenced by trade with the Europeans (who brought goodies from Korea and China). The nagoya is perfect for my own persona even if it's for the oddballs of society.
Also, the patchwork is almost reassembled! It looks totally fab! this is my first ever attempt, so I have learned a lot. there are tiny flaws, but I'm so proud of how its coming out! Photo within an hour!
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Jul 24, 2011 21:26:59 GMT -5
Again, I could rave about this but I really dont want to derail my own project thread. Then start another thread.
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Post by Lady Kimiko on Jul 24, 2011 21:56:37 GMT -5
Incoming nagoya obi thread / discussion. *I accidentally snipped some of the fabric, darn. It's on a front panel to boot. Oh man, total stinky spot to have the snip! *The collar had to be hand stitched due to being a blind stitch (I think that is the term). The slipt collar color came out super fab and looks lovely with the red stripe up front. *Up next, is the conversion of the sleeves to the kosode form. *After the sleeves are done I need to press and properly flatten the seams. ATM they are not. *After the sleeves starts the embroidery.
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Jul 24, 2011 22:14:55 GMT -5
*I accidentally snipped some of the fabric, darn. It's on a front panel to boot. Oh man, total stinky spot to have the snip! Patch it from the back. That'll prevent it from getting any bigger. Ive your thread color is anywhere near a close match, oversew along the snip with small hand stitches. Someone would have to be right on top of you to see the mend anyway. I find doing collars by hand a lot easier anyway - I have more control over the lie of the fabric than I do with a machine. Sleeves'll be cake. Just turn inside out, mark your curve with chalk and sew along the chalk line. You don't even have to cut the corner off if you don't want.
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Post by Lady Kimiko on Jul 24, 2011 22:17:53 GMT -5
Makiwara, right all across the board! The collar by hand was far superior and insured that none of the stitches are visible on the front. In fact for the snip, I am just going to embroider over it I am so proud of this crazy idea and project!
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Post by Please Delete on Jul 25, 2011 5:42:29 GMT -5
It looks very nice. Good choices.
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Post by Lady Kimiko on Jul 25, 2011 10:24:08 GMT -5
So this morning I went and hitup another momoyama kosode resource I own... a book 'The history of women's costume in Japan'. At this point I am giong to make a dedicated thread to the patchwork Momoyama style . I have many new and stunning historical period examples of this style that cross all ranks of society. I even have a few photos of respectable women of the court in the style
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Jul 25, 2011 10:36:53 GMT -5
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Post by Lady Kimiko on Jul 25, 2011 11:07:15 GMT -5
So, I have decided to NOT attach the sleeves to the main body of the kosode. I have a solid period example of where it is not attached, and more so suspect a few others of not having attached sleeves. The kimono pictured here is the kosode that belonged to a maid who attended to a woman of the court. Not having the sleeves attached will be nice for hot events and personal use for tying back so that I can get my hands dirty in a bit of work. Also, I love the Ran examples. That movie is great . After watching Ran I don't know how people can not favor the period.
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Post by Lady Kimiko on Jul 25, 2011 11:11:32 GMT -5
Also, I am totally digging white fans on red..I think that is what I will embroider on the red sections!
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Post by Lady Kimiko on Jul 25, 2011 11:50:14 GMT -5
Sleeves... *Due to the light weight summer sheer nature of the green kimono I had to cut out the extra from the former square sleeve shape. It was very visible. Now...to finish raw edges, iron the seams flat, iron out wrinkles, and then begin embroidering. All in all, I now have a Momoyama patchwork Kosode
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2011 12:15:43 GMT -5
As for where I get my Japanese kimono, I import them in mass from Japan for American resale. I literally have stacks of crates full. You have been very polite about only discussing your personal projects here and not promoting your resale business, but I'm wondering if you are the same person as ohiokimono. That login's business promotion in the Vendor section was perfectly fine, IMO.
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Post by Lady Kimiko on Jul 25, 2011 12:22:11 GMT -5
I am. Which is why I made this personal account instead of using that account for my projects. I didnt want people viewing my projects through the lenses of "oh..your not really into the sca and are just doing this to promote". Ive learned that its better to separate the two. This outfit is going to be worn to the midrealm coronation where I am also teaching classes on the Momoyama costuming. Again, its just best to keep personal and business apart.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2011 13:42:57 GMT -5
Sorry to "blow your cover", then. Personally, I wouldn't be bothered if you used a single account. Anybody doing the amount of work you're doing "just" to promote a business has earned a little of my attention. Whatever makes you most comfortable, though.
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Post by Lady Kimiko on Jul 25, 2011 14:19:15 GMT -5
Thanks , maybe Ill toss a link in my signature. The local SCA crew know I'm pretty serious and was passionate long before I had a business. I just turned my passion into a business. Passion first, business second. Separate note I've begun to embroider the kosode. I am using a dark yellow / goldish thread that is NOT silk to accent and outline the geometric design of the red. I will later upgrade to a silk thread for the actual main elements such as the fans and crickets. For now, I want the thread I am currently using to not be as eye popping as the main elements. These are intended to be a subtle accent...not the main show. Im no pro with satin stitch...but I guess now is the time to gain all the experience! I have a lot of fabric to cover!
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