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Post by raycornwell2 on Jan 2, 2006 12:13:38 GMT -5
Don't worry, my head is fine, I was only joking about having speach problems, lol! And yes, I am going for that whole sober zen simplicity thing. I don't care for bright colors, ever. Just makes me feel wierd, when I wair them. But white is alright.
Thanks for the info, Tamayori! I try to stay away from hollywood recreation, but, if I see something in a movie that I like, I am gonna investigate to see if I can pull it off historically...
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Jan 2, 2006 20:55:58 GMT -5
There's fine and there's fine, but your writing seems about the same as usual, so that's a good sign. I'm just glad the tree didn't win. S.
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Post by raycornwell2 on Jan 4, 2006 20:09:04 GMT -5
Well, I have gone with dark blue, for the kosode... I was wondering, what is the difference between a kosode and a kimono? Still a newb, here, on clothing....
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Jan 4, 2006 20:30:05 GMT -5
Semantics, primarily. Kosode translates loosely as "small sleeves." I've seen it badly translated as "tight sleeves", but it refers to the fact that the sleeves have a small opening at the wrist. "Kimono" means "thing to wear." Nobody called them kimono until the 19th century, when the word evolved as a way to differentiate between that new-fangled Western style clothing or "yofuku" and Japanese clothing "wafuku." One of the things that the costume designers for "The Last Samurai" did quite well was to show how Western clothing was catching on in 1870's Japan - if you go back and look at the street scenes in Yokohama (particularly after Algren comes back from his winter in "captivity"), you'll see people in kimono and bowler hats, for example. web-japan.org/factsheet/fashion/western.htmlWhich is probably more than you wanted to know. ;-> Saionji
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Post by raycornwell2 on Jan 4, 2006 23:04:43 GMT -5
Actually, I did notice! Pretty cool, I really respect Nigela Dickenson's (spelling?) ability to recreate costumes, and create new ones, as she did in Lord of the rings... I di also notice, that, the sleeves of the characters in the movie do not have a rounded off end at the bottom of the ends of thier sleeves. Is this exceptable for SCA period? What is the deal? I like square sleeves better, but, I don't mind making slight rounded ends on the bottom of the ends of my sleeve...
Also, I am almost finished with my kosode, been working on it tonight, while listening to the Last samurai soundtrack, lol! I think I may have made it a little too short, though... but, I think if I do the open sleeves (open at armpit), it may keep it from pulling the bottom up under the hakama, making a small but sightly gap that shows in the side openings of the hakama... If that fails, I guess I will just have to add a bit of cloth down thier... It would only be a few inches too, drat... Oh well, I will get more done, and check back later, if you have any tips... Thanks!!
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Post by AJBryant on Jan 4, 2006 23:54:16 GMT -5
Square sleeves are modern -- as are sleeves that separate from the body (for men).
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Post by raycornwell2 on Jan 5, 2006 0:14:18 GMT -5
Ok, then I will cut the curves in the sleeves. But the open armpit is only for women of the proper period? Hmmmmm... So, for men, only the hitatare have open armpits at the sleeves?
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Jan 5, 2006 1:33:39 GMT -5
Effing-sensei already clarified about the sleeves, but there's no reason you couldn't piece on a little more length at the bottom of the kosode if it needs it.
I redid my gold uwagi for Twelfth Night and it's got a horizontal seam across the back that wouldn't normally be there. I got the silk for a bargain, but there was a major fault in the weave right across the bolt-width, so I had to cut and piece it.
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Post by Nagamochi on Jan 5, 2006 5:10:14 GMT -5
Nifty namban trick for rounding those sleeves if you're using a sewing machine
If you're like me and have found you can't sew a curve by hand or on machine to save your soul, do the following. Place kosode on machine so shoulder hem is near the main body of said machine. Start sewing straight seam as always. When nearing curved area, place appropriate hand as close to shoulder seam as possible on machine and press fairly firm while rotating with hand causing the needle to sew a nice, even curve. Don't like the large curve? Place hand, or finger, closer to the needle and proceed as above.
Works like a charm for me (after a little practice) Nagamochi
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Jan 5, 2006 9:36:14 GMT -5
Nifty namban trick for rounding sleeves regardless of how you're sewing.
Cut your two sleeve rectangles, fold them at the shoulder and lay them one on top of each other. Take a dinner plate and lay it down on the sleeve corner you want to round. By moving the plate in or out along the edge you can adjust the curve somewhat to where you want it to lie. Mark it with chalk or pencil. Cut along the curved line and pin. This way you'll get symmetrical curves on the left and right sleeve.
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Jan 5, 2006 9:45:41 GMT -5
Hang on, what about the boys in this 16th c. painting? I'm seeing swinging sleeves.... S.
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