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Post by JanxAngel on Apr 3, 2009 10:55:50 GMT -5
Not much to add I'm afraid except that if you use a button, use a metal one and buy either actual button thread or upholstery thread. If it's in a place where it won't be smacked up against your leg, a shank button could work, but a flat button would be better.
Another option would be instead of a button and buttonhole, a button and loop, similar to the way the shoulder "straps" on the armor are hooked to the front.
This is from the POV of a seamstress and fighter and does not really have any period considerations in it. YMMV.
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Post by roninpenguin on Apr 3, 2009 23:52:23 GMT -5
If you are going to go with a wood button, you can always do what I do to make my Kohaze. I take and cut out wood pieces, then soak them in a Wood Glue/Water solution over night and then let them dry. They have been very durable.
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Post by tengumoon on Apr 4, 2009 1:31:09 GMT -5
Well I have resin/plastic buttons that look lik horn - just like my kohaze
My real questions were: is a single button enough to hold the haidate in place when they get hit in battle? how much curvature should the haidate have around the thigh?
I am thinking of cheating and sewing the button on for looks but using velcro hidden behind to hold the haidate straps together behind my legs Period armour is one thing, but I dont want to be repairing armour after every battle, or worse, after every training
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Post by roninpenguin on Apr 5, 2009 18:12:53 GMT -5
Really with the button on the inside of the leg it shouldn't be hit that much, you should more worry about it getting caught on something and getting pulled. If it is securely sewn on it shouldn't be to much trouble, and if it is pulled hard enough to do damage I don't think that adding velcro will help much.
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Post by tengumoon on May 24, 2009 6:10:19 GMT -5
Sad to say I havent yet gotten pics of my full kit - I know someone has them but I sadly do not... As many will have seen my new zunario kabuto thanks to Myakru I removed the steel fukigaeshi and replaced them with 5 mm leather - just because they look so good (and right) I also designed and created a maedate of the same leather - but that is only for special tournaments and maybe for war here is a pic
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Post by AJBryant on May 24, 2009 11:46:18 GMT -5
Nice!
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Post by mrcunningham on May 25, 2009 11:36:26 GMT -5
SICK. Love it.
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Post by tengumoon on May 26, 2009 8:23:31 GMT -5
I finally got some full kit pics from a recent event So after a lot of effort and a lot of help (thanks to you all) and especially Efingham-dono and Mykaru-dono Here it is (yes I still need kote and suneate / kyahan)
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on May 26, 2009 13:40:09 GMT -5
That came out very well!
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Post by solveig on May 26, 2009 21:35:29 GMT -5
Noble Cousin!
Greetings from Solveig! May I suggest that you consider acquiring a somewhat smaller rectangular shield where the vertical axis is longer than the horizontal axis? Such a shield, while rare, can be justified for Japanese fighters while a heater shield pretty much can not. At least, I do not know of anyone who has succeeded in documenting a heater in Japan. Actually, the shield which I am suggesting is a kind of buckler. It is shown being born by the hand without a forearm strap.
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Post by tengumoon on May 26, 2009 23:37:22 GMT -5
Noble Solveig... Greetings from Kenji...
if you have such documentation I would very much like to see it as in all my years of Japanese martial arts I have never heard reference to a hand held shield.
That aside, I must admit my first reaction upon reading your reply was to laugh... shrugs... Why? Because you havent even asked why I am using a heater shield. Instead it appears you are making an assumption about my use of the heater. Im not sure if you actually participate in heavy fighting or are aware of the requirements. Im surprised you havent picked on my use of hockey gloves...
To be honest tho, I am a beginner in SCA fighting and I havent yet authorised. I am required to authorise with sword and shield. After which I will go on to use Diasho (katana and Wakizashi), Nodachi, Yari and Naginata. I use a heater shield for other reasons: there are people to learn the use of the shield from locally. I have never fought with a shield and figure to go with something generic for the above reason. I wish to learn to use the most common / generic / default shield so that I can understand better the dynamics of the sword and shield so that I can defeat it using traditional Japanese Weapons (or rough rattan facsimiles of)
I often appreciate your input, your suggestions oft times valuable, however sometimes your manner can come across as brusque, arrogant and all knowing.
I would have enjoyed a critique / comment of my armour... good, bad or indifferent.
with respect, Kenji
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Post by Kano Hiroyoshi on May 27, 2009 10:29:46 GMT -5
To be honest tho, I am a beginner in SCA fighting and I havent yet authorised. I am required to authorise with sword and shield. After which I will go on to use Diasho (katana and Wakizashi), Nodachi, Yari and Naginata. I use a heater shield for other reasons: there are people to learn the use of the shield from locally. I have never fought with a shield and figure to go with something generic for the above reason. I wish to learn to use the most common / generic / default shield so that I can understand better the dynamics of the sword and shield so that I can defeat it using traditional Japanese Weapons (or rough rattan facsimiles of) As a new fighter, this was also my plan. The armor looks good, BTW.
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Post by Kurodachi no Mykaru on May 27, 2009 17:11:25 GMT -5
We are visitors to the courts of Europe. Interest in the arms of these strangers is not dishonorable.
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Post by mitsuhide on May 31, 2009 3:47:16 GMT -5
I have to agree being a "visitor" I am guilty of using a center punch oval and o its so much funner that a heater, only in my eyes. The armour looks amazing wow I hope mine comes out that nice.
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Post by dianet on May 31, 2009 14:03:33 GMT -5
The greatest fighters in the world learn from both ends of the weapon they choose. Knowing how a weapon or defense works against all kinds of defense and offense gives the warrior a greater advantage against a person only learning one weapon at a time.
Okay, enough with the mysterious words. Basically, learning to use the sword and shield will give Kenji a better understanding of how to defeat someone when he chooses to face off against it.
Am I making sense here or am I confusing people again? If I am, I'm sorry.
Kujo no Ume
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