Saionji Shonagon
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Sept 13, 2005 0:46:51 GMT -5
Barry, is that Castro as in over the rainbow San Francisco Castro? ? Because I'm only across the Bay. Go to www.westkingdom.org and see if there's anything on the calendar that strikes your fancy. If you think you'd like to attend an SCA event, let me know. I can probably even hook you up with some loaner clothing if needed. Saionji
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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on Sept 13, 2005 11:42:54 GMT -5
I thought you might be interested in a similar color scheme found on a fragment of a kosode in a museum. www.city.okayama.okayama.jp/museum/hanabusa/siryo/20-kosode.htmGoogle translation (isn't this a big help!): 20 transmission it is great rug under the princess business wadded silk garment (Dark blue area Shochiku Co., Ltd. plum figure wadded silk garment fissure) Cluster Shima Mori correct forming, correct room * greatly of the space/large house Kita 秀 house granted from the princess, portion of the wadded silk garment which is conveyed exists. Cluster house historical data
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Post by madyaas on Sept 13, 2005 12:02:33 GMT -5
I thought you might be interested in a similar color scheme found on a fragment of a kosode in a museum. I'm amused by the translation. Translating software does a worse job on Japanese than it does on Spanish (and since I studied Spanish in school, it's even worse reading machine translations), but at least it gives you an idea. That's quite pretty! I think the Japanese have come up with just about every color scheme you can think of with natural dyes. Makiwara: Yep, that's the Castro I'm talking about. I'll keep you in mind if I ever want to attend an SCA event, so I appreciate the offer .
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Post by Please Delete on Sept 13, 2005 19:55:06 GMT -5
20 “`‹•PŠ—p¬‘³‰º¬•z i®’n¼’|”~}¬‘³—ôj
#20: A small piece of fabric of a kosode said to be used by Lady Gou. (Kosode, dark blue ground with picture of pine, bamboo, and plum)
Lady Gou appears to be the 4th daughter of Maeda Toshiie (1574-1634). I've also found her called 'Bizennokami'.
-Ii
PS: Nice job on the original picture. Also, nice find Otagiri-dono!
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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on Sept 13, 2005 19:59:12 GMT -5
Also, nice find Otagiri-dono! It was a struggle. okay ... I just typed 'kosode' into Google imagesThanks for the translation. To think that people can read that stuff!
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Post by Please Delete on Sept 13, 2005 20:19:02 GMT -5
Well, the translation isn't guaranteed, but that's how I read it.
-Ii
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Post by madyaas on Sept 15, 2005 0:40:08 GMT -5
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Sept 15, 2005 8:22:00 GMT -5
Dang, Barry! That looks amazing.
Must get this apartment squared away and get back to my own projects....
S.
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Post by madyaas on Sept 15, 2005 10:36:04 GMT -5
Dang, Barry! That looks amazing. Must get this apartment squared away and get back to my own projects.... S. Thanks! I have to hold myself back or else I might overdo the decoration . I was most worried about how to do the pine needles. I first thought of doing a stencil, like the trunk and limbs of the tree (i'm way too picky about how it should look to do it freehand), but that's a lot of tedious work and it might not've worked out as well as what I did. After some thinking, the idea of using my chisel tipped artist's brush came to mind. It worked well to give thin lines. I'll admit though that the style of the tree came from a book on Chinese ink painting that I have, although there isn't much variation in painting single line pine needles anyway .
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Post by madyaas on Sept 22, 2005 15:38:27 GMT -5
I think I finally figured out how to get the migoro and okumi seams to lie where I see them on modern kimono. I was making a hanjuban (the "undershirt" meant to keep the juban and kimono clean on the inside) and Instead of attaching the okumi to the unaltered edge of the migoro, I snipped off about an inch and a half, so that the seam is further to the left and right sides. It seems to have done the trick.
So, now i've got to finish up the hanjuban and then create the Juban from leftover material from the obi. Some of the juban i've seen look like regular kimono, while others look like haori do, with the eri running down the entire front, and with no okumi, just migoro panels.
Since this is going under and won't be seen while i'm wearing it, I can just make it an unlined Kimono, perhaps (i'll see how I feel when I get to it).
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Post by Date Saburou Yukiie on Sept 22, 2005 15:44:00 GMT -5
Barry, I cannot tell you how much I like this piece, and how it has inspired me to do something similar - I am somewhat skilled in art and media, and this is a fantastic looking piece! GREAT JOB! I am so glad you posted the pics and are telling us of your method! Date
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Post by madyaas on Sept 22, 2005 15:53:10 GMT -5
Barry, I cannot tell you how much I like this piece, and how it has inspired me to do something similar - I am somewhat skilled in art and media, and this is a fantastic looking piece! GREAT JOB! I am so glad you posted the pics and are telling us of your method! Date Thank you! I appreciate comments like yours. This is why at work I'm called the "jack of all trades" because if I don't know or just have basic understanding, I find some way to figure out how to work it. I'm really happy with how things are turning out. I managed to fix the haori, and re-do the collar, so that's complete. I did a cursory wearing and it looks really nice. All of those layers really make myself look thinner than I am. Well, it at least makes my silhouette more imposing, but there will be about 6 layers of cloth total when I'm wearing everything: Kimono shell and lining, Haori shell and lining, juban, and hanjuban. One minor issue with the gold paint was, when you do a fade effect, the paint doesn't hold onto the fibers as deeply as painting it on does, so the rubbing in the wash (yes, I did machine wash it and it survived!), took off some of the gold paint. It's not a huge deal since I can just go back and re-apply it (and hand wash it the next time). I will definitely be warm come Halloween! This will be a welcome change from previous years when I froze my ass off .
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Post by Date Saburou Yukiie on Sept 22, 2005 15:56:21 GMT -5
...and you can enjoy it all the more, because you made it and did not buy it from another artist! Date
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Post by madyaas on Sept 22, 2005 16:13:40 GMT -5
...and you can enjoy it all the more, because you made it and did not buy it from another artist! Date Exactly, I can actually show something that I've made by my own hand. Making your own things is more satisfying than buying them (although some things can be prohibitive to make by hand, unless you really have the skills, and/or the time!). It's also the joy of seeing how something turns out when you figure out how it all goes together.
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Sept 22, 2005 16:31:12 GMT -5
Be sure to wear at least one under layer with it - that will absorb most of the sweat and body oil. The less you have to wash a painted garment, the longer your artwork will last. The "Shoot Me" kosode has not been washed since it was uncut, unpainted fabric straight from the shop. (It gets worn as a "coat" layer and I usually have two or more layers on under it.
Saionji
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