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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on Nov 16, 2005 10:06:17 GMT -5
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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on Nov 16, 2005 12:35:58 GMT -5
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Post by Nagamochi on Nov 16, 2005 12:55:16 GMT -5
Lol, Otagiri, I said yellow and black, not an old McDonalds employee outfit.
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Post by Noriko on Nov 16, 2005 13:36:31 GMT -5
"Drowning in fabric." "OMG, I'm only 5' nothing, I can't wear all that!"This reaction is not new. Ladies, you are not wearing modern Western clothing. You are not even wearing dressy modern Western clothing. You are trying to wear fashions that are more than a millenium old and was worn by physically small people. They didn't view it as drowning in fabric! Oh, I don't mind the drowning at all; I'm just noting the fact that I am. Well, sort of. I have little moblity but who cares? I look pretty neat And when it's time for the ladies footrace, I'll just strip down to my undies (you know what I mean, kosode and hakama). But I would like to make more layers- just three more to go and I'll have the kinu needed for iroiro. Yay!
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Nov 16, 2005 16:54:41 GMT -5
I have absolutely no clue. (I figured it was total overkill for court among the namban.)
Abe-hime, I know Ii-dono's done some work with the Nuikata book. Is there anything in there?
Saionji
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Post by Nagamochi on Nov 17, 2005 0:59:43 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, I want to say a mo is 2 or 3 panel widths wide, and then pleated in to the belting, but don't quote me, my memory is a bit foggy on that.
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Nov 17, 2005 9:24:35 GMT -5
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Post by AJBryant on Nov 17, 2005 10:37:21 GMT -5
It's not so much the pleating. The panels are actually cut into trapezoids, which are then stitched together in a really surprising way; the seams are on the UP end of the folds, and they're not folded over. They are raw edges of fabric facing UP. Somewhere around here I have some closeup photos of the end of a mo to show what I mean, but some things haven't shown up since the move...
Effingham
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Nov 17, 2005 15:00:27 GMT -5
Hmm, considering that a mo trails along well behind much of the rest of the outfit, I suppose having the seams on the side not likely to snag on the floor makes sense. How raw are raw edges? Was the fabric a tight or loose weave, do you remember?
S.
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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on Nov 17, 2005 15:25:20 GMT -5
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Post by AJBryant on Nov 17, 2005 16:44:36 GMT -5
Really raw. Not selvedge. Not seamed. Put two pieces of paper together, then run a row of staples along one edge (the sewn "seam") then spread the pages apart. That kind of raw. It was fairly dense weave, but still... As to those patterns... they're cheater patterns. They give an approximation of the garment, but they're not really correct. For example, note that the hoko (the "back pouch") on the ho is a separate piece in their pattern. In a real ho, it's all one piece. Effingham
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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on Nov 17, 2005 16:47:11 GMT -5
As to those patterns... they're cheater patterns. Thanks for the warning!
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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on Nov 17, 2005 17:02:00 GMT -5
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on Nov 17, 2005 18:13:29 GMT -5
I never thought I'd find myself saying this, but ew. Ick. It offends my couture-finish-obsessed soul.
I think you had some stuff up over in the JML files, didn't you? (Nudge. Nudge.)
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Post by Otagiri Tatsuzou on Nov 17, 2005 18:50:49 GMT -5
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