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Post by raito on May 9, 2005 22:28:21 GMT -5
I have a "Well Behaved Women Rarely Make History" one with medieval European "Amazons" on it. I think that slogan needs to go on a shirt with a Tomoe Gozen theme, don't you? ;-> That goes along with 'people who like the status quo don't become Pelicans'.
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Post by Nagamochi on May 10, 2005 2:22:03 GMT -5
Thank you Saiaiko-hime for your info. Being in the heart of Jaravellir, I have no want of fabric choices. In fact, we just recently got a Jo-Ann's Superstore on the westside. YIPPEE-SKIPPY! ;D There's also a wonderful fiber goods store downtown where I've found a decent selection of silk cone thread when I have the ambition to warp my loom(s). If you want, I think they have a website at www.lakesidefibers.comAs for Kass McGann's website, I've looked at it extensively, and have many of the color combos memorized, except the names are a bit of a jumble. Now what's this I hear about the "pine tree layering"? I have an 8 layer juni-hitoe in this style for winter and I'm being told I can't use it for those chill summer nights when my posterior is getting frost bite? *Sigh* What's a swarthy 250 pound, yumi-wielding, delicate princess of a boi gonna do? Your girlfriend, Nagamochi
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on May 10, 2005 8:38:14 GMT -5
Timeline surf? My "winter" ensemble is late Heian/early Kamakura. For spring/summer I wear later period kosode. As a practical matter in a kingdom with a long camping season, I didn't want to attempt to drag my court togs through the star thistle. ;->
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Post by Date Saburou Yukiie on May 10, 2005 9:13:53 GMT -5
I am working on a Tomoe Gozen line of artwork for shirts and prints...they should be out by Pennsic... Date
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Post by Date Saburou Yukiie on May 10, 2005 9:17:29 GMT -5
That is like saying I have a one wheeled bicycle my friend... ;D Juni means the number twelve...but you could use false collars to achieve the look of a juni hitoe...
Come visit us at Pennsic...we are severly archery friendly, and probably field more combat archers per square cho than any other kingdom or barony... I personally own 3 yumi, and have two more coming. (See the pics in my profile here on tousando) and I know Saiaiko-hime has a combat yumi, and practically everyone else that has a Japanese persona in camp has one or more yumi. Come shoot with us...
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Post by Saiaiko on May 10, 2005 10:01:21 GMT -5
Tomoe Gozen t-shirts? Truly? Truly? One dragon rests In the breast of bushi girls Name her Tomoe
I like the idea of time surfing, but if you want to stay in Heian, try hakama (dark red/purple if you are single, scarlet if you are taken), kosode, and a single over-kimono in the lightest weave of a natural fabric. I am planning on dyed gauze for Pennsic. Here's something of what I mean: www.iz2.or.jp/english/fukusyoku/wayou/8.htm (fake the collar, cuff, and hem of the under layer, or just do without it) and www.iz2.or.jp/english/fukusyoku/wayou/9.htm (a little Heian goth-y, I am doing this one for the summer) You could do the Kamakura route (just a little later) and just wear the hakama and kosode. The outfit is surprisingly comfy and cool. As far as the Pine Tree ensemble? Please refer to Makiwara-hime's Rule #1. Think of her as Kokoshanil-hime. Okay, enough girly stuff! You have a bow? Let's go kill something... round-eyed... at Pennsic... metaphorically... What?! PS - I would have to disagree with Date-dono on the rigid number of layers in a juni-hitoe. As far as I have researched, the number of layers changes with fashion and legality. Earlier Heian versions could have 20 - 30 - 40 layers, though the sumptuary laws in the latter part of Heian jidai reduced it to five. The term juni-hitoe (12 dresses) comes from the folktale of a lady-in-waiting drowning amidst her robes as she tried to save a child emperor. It's kind of like calling a couch a "davenport" because it was produced there. I'm just paraphrasing, so here are some sources: www.iz2.or.jp/english/fukusyoku/wayou/ Karaginu-Mo is another term for Juni-Hitoewww.reconstructinghistory.com/japanese/HeianDress.htm
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Post by Nagamochi on May 10, 2005 17:46:56 GMT -5
Ok, so I only have a 40 lb. recurve. Though from my understanding, there are a couple of bowyer, I think Jaap is one of them, that sell some decent yumi at Pennsic. Thanks for the props on the "juni-hitoe" topic, I've read that story a couple times.
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on May 10, 2005 19:13:50 GMT -5
Hot damn! Can't wait to see it.
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on May 10, 2005 19:26:14 GMT -5
It looks black in my monitor too, but the notes in the explanation section say that the outer robe is indigo.
Dear Kannon Preserve Us! I'm blanking on the reference and am not sure what you just pinned on me, but remember, I'm still learning this stuff myself! ;->
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Post by Saiaiko on May 11, 2005 8:53:35 GMT -5
Oh it's hardly a serious thing...
Kokoshanil - Coco Chanel
One might as easily pin that one on a couple other resident clothes horses.... But they might prefer psuedonyms like KristanDoru-dono or Karvinkrine-sama.
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Post by Nagamochi on May 11, 2005 13:59:02 GMT -5
It looks black in my monitor too, but the notes in the explanation section say that the outer robe is indigo. Oh, I could have sworn both the layers were green.
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Post by Saiaiko on May 11, 2005 14:35:51 GMT -5
Hmmm, the description is "indigo blue", but that is the darkest indigo I have ever seen. I suppose it can't be black. Isn't black an inauspicious color for women to wear? I seem to remember reading that somewhere.
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on May 11, 2005 18:59:55 GMT -5
Oh, you mean Kokoshaneru! ;->
My (male, straight) roommate is the one who came up with the scathing "Who dresses you, Carrie Bradshaw?"
Well, one of your clan brothers could certainly use "DSY" as a designer trademark. ;->
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Post by Nagamochi on May 14, 2005 3:14:22 GMT -5
Ok, back to a serious note. To keep to a tight budget, I'll probably end up making only one layering for the hot sweltering summer that I'll be wearing several times from July through September. Therefore, in the venerable opinions of the females on this site, what would be the best color combo to stretch over that time?
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Post by Saionji Shonagon on May 14, 2005 11:39:29 GMT -5
Go look at Dalby's "Kimono" or Effingham's kasane stuff and pick a late summer/early fall color combination. My spring green peeping from beneath dead leaves ensemble is meant to be worn in the dead of winter, sort of saying, "Hang in there, it'll be spring soon." The idea is that you can't be passe if you're thinking ahead. To hint in sweltering summer at the coming briskness of autumn would be very elegant.
Besides, 99% of the people around you are not going to know the difference anyway.
What am I doing here? Must run!
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